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My friend, this is a classic scam, designed to get someone to send him a large amount of cash so he can go to the Bahamas while you await drums that will never arrive. That is the exact kit, pictures and all. The guy lived in Chicago and had the kit posted on ebay UK, for some stupid reason. Can't imagine why, but maybe he thought it sell for more in Europe....it's tough for international shipments, he could just use an excuse of it getting snagged in customs for tarrifs or some silly crap....just my take on why anyone would want to go through the hassle of shipping to UK for a kit that would likely have sold here anyway, which it did, btw, sell in the US.

you know, i did ask the ebay seller a question about the kit. i noticed on the edge of two of the photographs, that the Hi Hat stand feet were missing.----he had described the kit as pristine but a kit missing feet isn't exactly, that. his response was, well ...... late; not exactly the kind of response, one would expect , when the honour of such a bold listing was at stake-----kind of like he had to think about it.

he congratulated me on my powers of observation and then proceeded to say that they kept falling off and he had forgotten to put them on , for the pictures.

now, I have 7 of those stands, one is as beat up as you can imagine and they range all the way up to an N.O.S. stand-----it has never had a cymbal on it.

the feet on these stands went through a few changes. up until 1961, they were little round black rubber balls and could fall off fairly easily because they have only about 1/4" of gripping surface. between 1961 and 1966, they were black rubber somewhat coneshaped,tube feet,which have over an inch of grip and a tight suction fit. they are very hard to get off,even with effort. after 1966 the feet were similar shaped but of a hard grey plastic, that is shrunk fit on the legs and almost impossible to get off ,unless cracked. my impression is that this kit is not what it is claimed to be, so right off the bat, there is something wrong. i'm not an expert on Trixon drums but I do know a lot about them. during their years of production, Trixon underwent numerous changes and most of these have critical timelines ; with allowance for stock depletion. the timelines have been established through archival research and market evidence. the snaredrum appears to be from 1967,because it has parts on it that date from that time, as does the bass drum. it is unlikely that Trixon would be shipping a bass drum to N.A. with calfskin heads on it(special order perhaps?) and the logo is straight and level----an unusual feature for especially the Speedfire front head where it seems to have come from the factory,always on a tilt. in picture 11 from the original listing, there appears to be loss of chrome on the top of the two tension rods that are visible on the floor tom. this is a common issue with Trixon after many ,many tunings. i have a W.M.P. floor tom of exactly the same vintage as the one pictured(i bought it new in 1967)----and with spit and polish, i could make it look about as good as the one pictured and it has the same kind of chrome loss on some of the rods. i think this is an assembled kit, of very good drums and a stand, not new but lightly used. the rack tom, is even missing the ubiquitous made in germany sticker , at the vent,----what's that all about for a kit that hasn't been played?

That same kit with the same pictures and the same description was offered this week in Belgium-Europe for 1500 Euro. I notified the web-master that this was a scam. The ad was removed within minutes,...

so, the Calgary Kijiji addowner, claims that they live in London England and wants payment by wiretransfer. i wonder if anyone has actually bought these, from any of the adds? the ebay listing was probably a case of schill bidding.

Did you read post #9....?

of course and I don't think any of this adds up properly.----starting with the statement that this is a vintage kit dating from 1965. the snare hangers,on the snare drum (as well as other parts on the kit) do not date from 1965. the ebay seller has good feedback and appears to be reputable by the standards established by ebay, so one wants to give credit there but it was listed in England out of Peoria ,Illinois and someone won it with 0% bid activity with the seller????-----am I reading this right? no feedback has been filed, the kit has shown up on KIJIJI Calgary, being sold out of England and in Belgium concurrently.

Here's another one out of Alberta for Ludwig.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290584837464&clk_rvr_id=247028858234

0 feedback Spidey sense is tingling

My understanding by the quote emailed to me is that the seller has not been paid yet and the drums have not been shipped, thus no feedback. The seller contacted me quickly, didn't try to sell me the outfit even though he hasn't been paid yet, hasn't been busted by eBay, has a good rep.... I think the eBay transaction is legit, and of course the other ads are scams. Whether he gets paid or not is another story we aren't privy to at this point, and may never be.

To address another post, the incremental $1000 bids by the buyer at the end of the auction were to reach the reserve price, that's just how they show up when there is no one else bidding against him. He joined the bidding 4 days previous to the end of the auction at $3500. He was challenged at $5000 with a $5001 bid, and then bid $6000.... no one else ever bid, so if it's a schill, why continue ?? He could have stopped before reaching the reserve.