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Im restoring, and was reading how to restore a drum again. I came accross this part and would like to know more about this. My sonor lugs didnt have this and none of the drums I have restored have had this. Is this necessary, and excatly how do i do this? from the "How to restore a drum"

Internal Felt:

I usually leave it alone, if the lug does not have internal felt then you can pack it with a cotton ball (if that's all you have) or go get some heavy felt at the fabric store. Cut it in little rectangles so that it wraps around the spring

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
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poppy, there are 2 camps on it you can go with or without,

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Posted on 14 years ago
#2
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I have some heavy felt, do I need to wrap the spring in the lug with felt?

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
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Yes Poppy -you can wrap it- I use cotton balls in there myself but have even used paper towel when I had nothing else on hand. ALmost no one will ever see it so anything is ok if it stops the rattle buzz.

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Posted on 14 years ago
#4
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Avoid using some types of foam. DW put small dark foam pads in lugs during their early years. The stuff deteriorates, crumbles, and sticks to the springs and internal parts becoming useless and messy.

I'm not sure if DW is still using foam to prevent spring buzzing and rattling.

Posted on 14 years ago
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I use those makeup apply/remove pieces. They are cotton and thinner with a quilted texture. If you cut it in half, it fits a lug just about perfect. It's easier to work with than cotton balls.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Ok it all makes sense now. I didn't know what purpose the felt served. Do I just place a piece behind the spring or wrap the spring?

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
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The effect is about the same, depending on the lugs. Wrapping is more complete, but if the spring is in a larger lug casing, it is OK to put them behind it, but wrapping is the better option IMO. I wrap all of mine with a heay cloth, or felt, but all of them get wrapped woth something. I am using whatever I have in a heavy cotton material as I feel it works as well as anything else will.

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Posted on 14 years ago
#8
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ok I'll look at the shop and see what I have. I have 1,000's of rolls of fabric and vinyl. I'll take a spring to work with me and have my seamstress cut them out. hehe. Is that cheating? lol

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
#9
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Hi Poppy

For my recent Gretsch restore project I saw the felt pieces on the restore site here too. So what I did was I went to a fabric store and bought some thin felt. I cut a piece until I had the correct size to fit inside the lug and behind the spring but not so the felt would affect the tention nut movement if you get what I mean. From there I just cut a "whack" of pieces and did all my lugs. I don't know if it made a difference - maybe a little - the lugs won't rattle anyway this way. Some say that little rattle is part of "that great Gretsch sound" - haha.

Cheers,

Posted on 14 years ago
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