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Teach me about Rides!

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Lucky is spot on. Ride Cyms vary in different rooms, at different times, and based on sticks, technique (lighter touch on the ride, position on the strike), etc. Levon Helm taped them to keep them in line. Then he didn't and then he did again. Experiment with controlling via technique, sticks, and tape or a moon gel on occasion. I sometimes add tape to the edge or throw a moon gel on at a gig when the ride cymbal was perfect at practice.

It is a mission for many of us, but also like hitting a golf ball. "How did I do that????"

Keep at it...Lew

Ludwig Drums ('65-'69)
Posted on 11 years ago
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From gmaki

This is really a general cymbal question, not particularly vintage as the cymbal I am asking about couldn't be considered vintage.In any event it is a an "A" 22" ride. Has slight keyholing which is starting to aggravate me to the point of replacing it, but that isn't the issue.The real "issue" for me is that now that I have been playing the entire kit and am starting to use the ride for some beats, it seems to overpower the rest of the kit, as in volume.. too loud compared to snare and bass. At least from my perspective on the throne.The question is, is this just the nature of the beast? is it the cymbal and should I look for another type/model? Do I just hit it too damn hard or in the wrong place?To put it in perspective I have never really been a drummer, I've been able to play a few basic beats since HS, but never really "played". I assembled the kit I am using almost more as a decoration for my sons room. But it is so beautiful and sounds SOOOOO good, especially when I am downstairs and hear someone playing it upstairs for some odd reason it has inspired me to get serious about playing. I've already picked a few more beats, and more complex ones at that.Coincident with that I am starting to care more about the individual sounds of the individual components. Really this one cymbal is the only part that isn't "meshing" I guess.

most likely try changing yr stxs to nylon covers tip..

or a smaller / lighter cym..a 20" that's under 2000grams or labelled..Thin.

Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.

ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP

Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival

Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Posted on 11 years ago
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From RIMS n SKINS

most likely try changing yr stxs to nylon covers tip..or a smaller / lighter cym..a 20" that's under 2000grams or labelled..Thin.

I actually ordered 3 pairs of the Peter Erskine Ride sticks and have been using them. They have definitely helped and I really like how they make the Hi Hat sound too.

I would still like to experiment with different rides and I am just watching ebay for a deal to jump on. I actually have something in mind at the moment... we will see if it falls my way. If it does I'll post a pic here.

Posted on 11 years ago
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