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Spraying Rattle Can Lacquer

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This is fun! (it is, but also a bit frustrating) I'm hoping for a bit of insight. I've seen some AMAZING results on these pages from folks using rattle can lacquer. My results seem to be...well. Lacking. What am I doing wrong?

I've built a Lazy Susan and I've sprayed about 4 layers of black lacquer on the 16" floor tom. Some sections look Awesome, but others sections have an orange peel texture to them and still others have runs. After it dries I sand out the runs and rough spots and respray but I cannot seem to get a uniform look.

If I spray light enough not to get runs, I don't get that shine. But if I spray close enough to get a shine, the runs begin. Any tips, or insights? What am I doing wrong here?

Thank as always for your expertise!

Peter Brown
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Reigning master of the run on sentence.

The Consummate Imperfectionist
http://woodmangler.blogspot.com/
Posted on 13 years ago
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What are you using to sand with? I have been using #0000 with fantastic results.

Also, did you primer first?

Posted on 13 years ago
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Some Laquers need to be sanded between coats. Build it up using thin coats. Laquers can be sanded smooth using say a 120 grit working up to 400 grit, then some polishing compund and buffed to a shine.

Posted on 13 years ago
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pjn1375:

I have been wet sanding with 500grit. It works okay, but seems to take it down REALLY fast. I have some 0000 steel wool, but was worried about steel residue in the finish. Also do you wet it as well?

No primer, just started on a smoothly sanded surface. Seems to be adhering okay. My consistency just blows.

FatherTime

Do you sand between coats, or just at the end after you build up a thick enough finish?

Thanks!

Peter Brown
~~
Reigning master of the run on sentence.

The Consummate Imperfectionist
http://woodmangler.blogspot.com/
Posted on 13 years ago
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Take a look at this thread,I just did these last week, when sanding in between each coat sand lightly not hard and go to a lighter grade of paper get 800 to 1000 grit, also don't spray heavy coats light coats only. http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=19740

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 13 years ago
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Try setting the can in a pan of hot water for a few minutes before you spray. Not boiling water mind you, just hot. It seems to help the lacquer flow a bit better. Also, after you get good coverage and the paint is dry after a day or so, try wet-sanding the final coat with 1500-2000 grit wet sandpaper. Then use rubbing compound on the shell and either hand buff, or machine buff, but use care when using a machine buffer, you don't want to burn through the new paint you just put down. The results should come out great. I usually give the job a coat of carnuba paste car wax after that to bring back the shine after buffing.

Posted on 13 years ago
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What Brand rattle can are you using? here is the largest Guitar luthier supply company in the US. the man that runs this company is One of the Best guitar Luthiers Period in the world Dan Ehrlwine, Stewart Mcdonalds. they have killer finishing supplies. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Finishing_supplies.html

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 13 years ago
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vintagemore2000:

Saw your post. Your results are AWESOME!! I just picked up some 1000 grit wet/dry, I'll give it a go tonight. I'm using Rustoleum rattle can.

Ludwig-dude:

Thanks for the tips! I'll pull out the warm water tonight and see if that improves converge. I've used carnuba wax on my turnings, never thought of it over lacquer! Thanks.

Peter Brown
~~
Reigning master of the run on sentence.

The Consummate Imperfectionist
http://woodmangler.blogspot.com/
Posted on 13 years ago
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Glad to be of help and thank you, I used Ace Hardware Lacquer clear coat to seal and protect the finish .

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 13 years ago
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Don't overlook this valuable resource for rattle-can nitro in colors: www.reranch.com

JR Frondelli
www.frondelli.com
www.dbmproaudio.com

Mediocre is the new "good"
Posted on 13 years ago
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