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From tnsquint

I am going to try using Sparkel Vinyl from Mendel's on a project kit that fits a similar circumstance. That is, of course, if I ever have time to finish them! http://www.mendels.com/fabrics12.shtmlThis is the vinyl that would be used for retro bar stools, tuck and roll applications like Kustom or Plush amps, that sort of thing. They will send you samples for free and the ones I received looked really good. It is more subtle than the type of "flash" you would get from a glass glitter as the flakes are very small, but it looks good. There is a thread over on the Pearl Forum about a guy using it to restore a Pear Export kit. He has LOTS of suggestions about dealing with it. I certainly would not consider this for a quality kit, but in situations where spending $200+ on wrap is not justifiable, you should give this a shot. I did some calculations at one point and I seem to recall a standard 4 piece kit would cost around $45 in this material. One thing is for sure; you would not have the double seams on drums over 18".Good luck!

Hey Scott, I may have to give this stuff a go!

However, I've still got plenty of that PSA wood veneer that I got from a cabinet shop last spring, and that stuff will cover just about anything (here's a link for more info: http://www.oakwoodveneer.com/tips/psa.html. Although this is NOT where I got mine -- I paid 10 bucks for about 25 2x8 rolls -- it gives you a good idea of what I'm talking about).

I've never used the stuff this thread is about. However, I did get several samples and have seen some drums with it installed and I decided quick that it wasn't anything I wanted to use...

Bill

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Posted on 12 years ago
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"You get what you pay for." (speaking of the sparklewrap)

I don't know who coined that gem of a cliche', but it is about as accurate as they come..............

toodles

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Ihave used the sparkle wrap on a few import kits that I flipped. Its a cheap way to make an ugly kit look good. I wouldnt advise using it on a vintage kit unless it was a bunch of orphans being used as a player.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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As far as the mendel stuff it would be a little weird with soft vinyl wrap but thats the cheapest yet

and then you need to glue it

i have a friend that uses the sparkledrumwrap guy on FEEbay but he has problems installing it and has a glass tinter install it for him .. although those bubbles creep back

i agree with everyone on its ok on a cheap set

unfortunatley you cant do a good wrap for under 200.00


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Posted on 12 years ago
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As far as weird is concerned, I guess so, but no more so than a Black Pantherkit and they are pretty cool.

tnsquint
Very proud owner of a new Blaemire Snare 6.5 x 14 made by Jerry Jenkins "Drumjinx"
Posted on 12 years ago
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From tnsquint

I am going to try using Sparkel Vinyl from Mendel's on a project kit that fits a similar circumstance. That is, of course, if I ever have time to finish them! http://www.mendels.com/fabrics12.shtmlThis is the vinyl that would be used for retro bar stools, tuck and roll applications like Kustom or Plush amps, that sort of thing. They will send you samples for free and the ones I received looked really good. It is more subtle than the type of "flash" you would get from a glass glitter as the flakes are very small, but it looks good. There is a thread over on the Pearl Forum about a guy using it to restore a Pear Export kit. He has LOTS of suggestions about dealing with it. I certainly would not consider this for a quality kit, but in situations where spending $200+ on wrap is not justifiable, you should give this a shot. I did some calculations at one point and I seem to recall a standard 4 piece kit would cost around $45 in this material. One thing is for sure; you would not have the double seams on drums over 18".Good luck!

Thanks, I have seen this thread, (have it bookmarked) and I actually did attempt to get samples from these guys, but never heard back. I would like to try this, though again, once it's applied, it'd probably be a mess to remove - not for valuable kits, but the results look good. Appreciate your suggestion.

Trying something new myself - Got my hands on some printer's materials a while back. and there was the end of a roll of some fairly heavy vinyl material in a very light cool gray. I'd contemplated trying to do a kit in a paint technique that I've been working on, but as it requires a flat surface, I was unable to achieve effect on a round shell. Tried cutting this vinyl to size, laid out flat, and applied my paint technique. Didn't turn out exactly as I'd hoped, (surface response to medium) but I think it should still look good. Wrapped one drum just to see how it worked and it's not bad. May post about this later, but one thing that I found, was that taping, and wrapping the drum with this material was far easier than that thin, adhesive vinyl. cutting out the lug and mount holes is a tougher job, but the material is much more durable than the stuff in question.

Another thing about 'Sparkledrumwrap', I'd done some research upon acquiring some of this stuff, and ran across a suggestion to just expose an inch or two of the adhesive at one end, then wrap the drum and do the same at the other end and secure, leaving backing paper on the inside of the film. This works okay, and is a little easier to apply, but it comes with it's own set of problems as well, not to mention that any tears that appear in the vinyl will expose white wax paper... Realistically, I think this stuff has it's uses, i.e. trim, graphics and stripes etc. - I got a roll of red sparkle, 1" tape in this material and it worked great for replacing bass hoop inlays on an old Pearl red sparkle kit I'm working on.

LOGOS - Vinyl Bass Drum Brand Logo Decals
http://www.ebay.ca/usr/barrhavendrum...p2047675.l2559

Barrhaven Drum Guy
Posted on 12 years ago
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just my 2 cents...I've used this wrap and when I finished the 6 pc. kit it looked absolutely awesome. I stored it in the garage pending taking pictures

and 2 days later, when I pulled it out I was horrified to see how the wrap had lifted and wrinkled everywhere, especially at the lugs. I will admit it was very hot and humid those days but still the beautiful kit was no more and I sold it to a kid for cheap because of the nasty wrap.

I still have 3 new, unopened rolls of this stuff, gold sparkle and silver sparkle and no idea where I can use them as for sure they won't be going on any drums.

I also tried using it with the paper still attached on some other drums...same effect. Not at all useable for drum rewrapping, at all, unless you can keep them in a very controlled environment where heat and humidity would never be an issue (which is where the kid who bought the drums said they would kept so I told him they would most likely be fine).

The wrinkles can be flattened out but come right back in a few hours, unless, like I said, they are kept inside.

Posted on 12 years ago
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I've never used this stuff( I see lots of ebay listings for it) and don't intend to. I'm a dyed in the wool drum wrap zealot------ but the symptoms being described all point to a problem of poor adhesion or glue slippage. Perhaps the adhesive on the material isn't up to snuff. Maybe there is a way of ensuring better adhesion-----extra adhesive ,adding contact cement as an additional adhesive or letting the adhesive cure for a while before putting the hardware on? ----some thoughts that might help make what appears to be a potentially valuable cheaper alternative work better.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From calfskin

I've never used this stuff( I see lots of ebay listings for it) and don't intend to. I'm a dyed in the wool drum wrap zealot------ but the symptoms being described all point to a problem of poor adhesion or glue slippage. Perhaps the adhesive on the material isn't up to snuff. Maybe there is a way of ensuring better adhesion-----extra adhesive ,adding contact cement as an additional adhesive or letting the adhesive cure for a while before putting the hardware on? ----some thoughts that might help make what appears to be a potentially valuable cheaper alternative work better.

All good suggestions, but personally, if I was to put additional adhesive into the equation, I'd probably go the Mendel fabric route as it seems to be a more durable, and long term solution.

LOGOS - Vinyl Bass Drum Brand Logo Decals
http://www.ebay.ca/usr/barrhavendrum...p2047675.l2559

Barrhaven Drum Guy
Posted on 12 years ago
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I've used this stuff three or four times now... on cheap POS fairly modern kits that I clean up and sell. Would I use the stuff on 'real' drums? Nope... This stuff is highly susceptible to stretching and heat. It's also THIN! When I use it, I leave the backing on and use double sided tape at the edges and middle of the shell. That seems to keep it in place a bit more. It looks great as long as you keep it out of the sun and heat... that kills it immediately.

The first one I did was a bunch of 'Excel' branded orphans... department store drums. These are all the same regardless of the brand, and turn out pretty nice. I sell 'em cheap, mostly to parents for their kids as a first kit. This stuff, if used wisely, is not bad, and makes 'em look great. I DO tell the folks buying them about it being fragile, other than that...

Would I use this stuff on a real kit? Even a vintage MIJ kit? Nope... I wouldn't, but on these cruddy kits like 'Excel' orphans, it turns firewood back into a pseudo drum kit.

I've never used the eBay stuff... I got the stuff from Dick Blick's Art Supplies.

fishwaltz
Posted on 12 years ago
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