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Sonor [smoke and mirrors]?

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From blairndrums

Calf,where are you located?You always seem to know so much about Euro drums....

I didn`t know he was a Canadian, but calf knows his drums. He is right, America knows little about alot of good quality europian drums.

Go Bruins !i

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 11 years ago
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Far be it from me to diagree with a guru but Sonor was making great drums long before the 70's

From what I've seen, the teardrop era drums were as good or better than what I've seen from NA in the same period, especially lugs

From OddBall

Go Bruins !i

60's Sonor Teardrops & 70s Premier AMs
Sabian
Vic Firth
Remo/Evans

"unless it's vintage, it's just another wooden tube."
Posted on 11 years ago
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From Holliwood

Far be it from me to diagree with a guru but Sonor was making great drums long before the 70'sFrom what I've seen, the teardrop era drums were as good or better than what I've seen from NA in the same period, especially lugs

No-one else in America builds a drum shell the way Sonor does. No-one else in America veneers a finnish the way Sonor does. (inside and out)

They have always built the top crop of the day. You can find a drum as good, but not better than Sonor !i

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 11 years ago
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To me, there`s Ludwig and Sonor, and everybody else is just that !i

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 11 years ago
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It doesn't matter this year because Toronto won the cup last year..... finally.

L.A. had 5 players on their roster, last year, from the G.T.A.,probably a bigger concentration of natives from a specific city , than on any other team. Toronto finally won the Stanley Cup!

Posted on 11 years ago
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That`s all I had for a rebuttle and knew it would make an itch !i

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 11 years ago
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Oh, BTW, there`s nothing wrong with a Trixon drum, great build and quality control. I just think that the tapering and warped BD`s were a major turn-off to drummers.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 11 years ago
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I also have no doubt that they modeled after Sonor or even used Sonor foundry plans to start out in the late 50`s !i Maybe even abondoned machinery too. But I think you would know more about that than I !i

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 11 years ago
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Actually, Trixon began in 1947, around the same time the Link's were hopping fences to get away from the Russians. By the time, Sonor got refinanced in the west and were making drums from their own designs, foundry and were back in the game, Trixon had been making state of the art kits for 15 years. Trixon had teardrop cast lugs from 1947 until 1963 and then went to isolated lugs( Tromsa ,already had simple isolated lugs, going back to the early 50's). Sonor catalogues until 53 or 54 looked like a catalogue from 1936;..... there were barely any drums listed, that any professional could even think of using ---and the hardware, resembled farm machinery.

Trixon was using L-arms from 1947 on( they may have invented the design??), boat shaped cast tom mounts from 1950( Sonor ,eventually copied the design around 1958 or so) and had sophisticated , heavily finished shell designs as far back as 1947. Sonor again , coughed up Trixon -like shells in the 60's sometime. Sonor was using Tromsa heads in the 50's, catalogued Tromsa footpedals as Sonor and even used Tromsa drumkeys,and hoops in their 50's catalogues. By the time Sonor, eventually began to make a unique hoop, that could be called a Sonor hoop( 58 or so), it was suspiciously similar to the hoops Trixon introduced in 1956.

Posted on 11 years ago
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I once read that Karl "something" started Trixon in a garrage in Hamburg mid to late 50`s. Now it sure looks like he advanced quite a bid by inhereting some used machinery cuz most garage drum makers can`t afford to go big without some kind of..."score"

Sonor has little to no production in the 40`s and no catalogs that can be found. They were makeing their own hoops in the 20`s and 30`s, cast and tube lugs as well. Their engraved gunmetal snares from the 20`s are super hard to find but man, they look sweet. So it`s not like they need lessons on how to build drums and move them out too. The stick throws they used in the 20`s looked nothing like Leedy`s but everyone elses in the world...did !i

That`s why I think Trixon and others were useing abandoned machinery and when they got back up again, they made similar that looked like the other German drum co`s because they did it first !i It`s cofuseing because of the dark 40`s !i

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 11 years ago
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