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Sonor plastic snare lugs

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Hi. I'm hoping the VDF can come through for me yet again. A friend has this Sonor snare with plastic lugs, 2 of which are broken and a third is cracked. Does anyone have info on this snare and a line on where to find replacement lugs? Checked ePay, but none of the snares there matched this lug style. Really want to help my friend with this, as he is trading me some early '60s Premiers for a refurbed orphan kit (mostly Ludwigs). THANKS!

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Posted on 10 years ago
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You might find them at sonormuseum.com You basically have a 454 with plastic lugs and rounded t-rods so they called it a 4 something (I forget) and the shell and hoops are seamless Ferromaganese. Some advice, Pull the throw off, disassemble it and take the slide and run all four long edges against a knife stone to remove the corners a tiny bit. This will make the throw easy to throw up and down without sticking that they are famous for. I recommend if the metal lugs line up, to switch to them and chuck the plastic and rods. The rods wont thread the metal lugs, I think .

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Posted on 10 years ago
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It's really a mess with these plastic lugs: no recommendation for Sonor back in the days!

You may try this source (although, for you, it's on the other side of the pond):

http://www.stdrums.de/

Gerd (the owner) may have some of these, or can offer you alternative lugs.

Best of luck!

Ralf

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 10 years ago
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Thank you both, Oddball and Ralf. I checked out both of your suggestions and came up with nothing. In fact, I have yet to even find a picture of another snare that looks like this one. Guessing this was a very low-end snare?

Posted on 10 years ago
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Yep. Not very low end, but low end.

In the late 60's to early 70's Sonor made some budget drum lines (Action, Rocker, partly Swinger) with plastic lugs, which disappeared again in the late 70's.

I guess these lines were dedicated to stand against the upcoming (cheap/er) Japanese competition.

Ralf

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 10 years ago
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Ralf is correct, and I might add that if you get metal lugs it will become the mid to high end snare it resembles. Ferro snares are in demand and SONOR hasn`t made one since the 80`s.

The one on ebay now has a lug changed and mentioned two holes drilled so I guess they don`t line up.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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As others have said, it is a very good shell and worth refurbishing. Finding exact replacement plastic lugs will be very difficult and Sonor metal lugs will be very expensive. You might be better off finding a generic single hole lug that will fit under the bead or a tube lug that fits the upper and lower hole spacing.

Posted on 10 years ago
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Those plastic lugs are usually found in Swinger snares in the early 1970s, as part of the K130 and K132 kits. Thin metal shells (sometimes without a bead), one-point buttends. The Ferro shells are thicker and heavier and the have metal lugs, similar to the ones found in Super Champion and Phonic models. Below is a pic of those lugs.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Very good information! Thinking I should just take this drum back to him and tell him "good luck." I just hate to admit defeat. At least I get to refinish his 1960 Ludwig Jazz Festival snare!

Posted on 10 years ago
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There must have been a Johnny Drumlug Seed in Germany in th early 70's because 3 companies ( Sonor, Tromsa and Deri----all West German) experimented with them around that period and they were all the same construction and clearly made by the same fabricator.

The principle wasn't all that bad because it was as stated, a way of putting a cheaper drum system out , in order to compete in the entry level market. The key was that , they used single ply heads which didn't stress the lugs too much. Then people tried using double ply heads with high tension and their shortcomings became apparent.

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