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So a Drummer Walks Into a Restaurant...

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My 60's rock band often plays at restaurants, so I need to be able to play quietly enough that the patrons can carry on conversations at their tables. It's a tall order, but since they are paying us to play (and feeding us, too), I guess I shouldn't complain.

As I get older, I am less inclined to want to carry an entire full drum set into and out of the gig. I sought a lighter solution and found an inexpensive RIMS PureCussion set on CL. It actually sounds pretty good when played with sticks, but when I play them with Hot Rods (which I call broomsticks), they sound pretty weak. We played twice last week at a restaurant with concrete floors. The place was extremely lively (acoustically-speaking), so using sticks was out of the question. The RIMS drums sounded bad.

So I need a solution for two needs: Lightweight, easy to carry drums, and; quiet drums. It also bothered me playing a RIMS set at gigs while I have great vintage drum sets at home.

I decided to give a mini-bass drum a try. I built the riser rig you see below. I know you can buy some risers fairly inexpensively, but I thought I'd take a stab at building one.

Here is my 1970 Oyster Black Pearl 16" floor tom serving as the bass drum. No modifications - just remove the legs and change the heads. The rims of the floor tom hold the riser together. I epoxied a piece of rubber to a door hinge for the pedal attachment. I tuned the 12 high and the 13 low, and there is plenty of tonal difference between the two. I still need to tune the 'bass', but without any effort, it sounds pretty good. I have a 13" Chinese-made Yamaha piccolo snare temporarily handling snare duties.

I think I can put all four drums in two cases, and they sound better with broomsticks than the RIMS set. I'll rehearse with them Friday, so I'll know better how they sound with our band.

Josh

Posted on 4 years ago
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Let me be the first to say, wow!

Great solution all-around. I think you'll get a lot of compliments and conversation surrounding this unique kit, so don't expect to have a quiet meal! Cool1

Posted on 4 years ago
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Now that is a great and novel approach! Cool1

Thanks for sharing that, I am sure many members will want some specs on this.

Michael

No Guru - I just love collecting & learning about vintage drums!

Some of my favorites from the kits in the collection
58 WFL New Yorker Blue Sparkle
67 Ludwig Hollywood Red Psychedelic
69 Ludwig Standard Red Ruby Strata
70's Ludwig BOP "Ringo" Kit

A few of my favorite snares
20's Leedy Black Elite
51 Leedy & Ludwig Knob Tension
58 WFL Buddy Rich Classic Blue Sparkle
63 Walberg & Auge Sea Blue Agave Green Pearl
66 Leedy Shelly Manne Blue Agate Pearl
Posted on 4 years ago
#3
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The hinge and head thing is what I would like to see

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 4 years ago
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From jaghog

The hinge and head thing is what I would like to see

I had a piece of 3/16" thick rubber laying around, so I epoxied the snot out of it to the hinge. Hopefully you can see it in the photo.

Not sure what you mean about the 'head thing.' I sized the struts of the riser to just barely fit, with the felt in place, between the two rims when they were on the drum with moderate tension. The two dowel ends fit snugly in the through-holes, so the riser doesn't "rack." It's quite solid and doesn't move a bit when playing.

Josh

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Posted on 4 years ago
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you better pattern that quick.

Nice work.

Wayne

Posted on 4 years ago
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A patent would be netter.

Hahahahaha... It would also be better.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 4 years ago
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Pattern or netter I’m making one ingenious

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 4 years ago
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Thanks for the praise, fellas. It works really well. Another feature that I didn’t even think about is that it is simple to just lift the drum off the riser to tune, move, or put it in a case.

Posted on 4 years ago
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That`s thinking outside the box!! Kudos!!

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 4 years ago
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