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Hey guys--I would like to say a Big Thanks to Kevins for posting the photos for me...Mikey

This post made me laugh. A Pakistani Tromsa drum? There have been knockoffs of just about every major maker out of the orient but here we have one from a non-industrialized country knocking off a drum that almost no-one outside of a group of contiguous European countries has ever heard of.

Tromsa did make a drum almost identical to this right down to almost every detail. Given the companies somewhat secretive business dealings----not badging their own drums but producing badged drums for at least 9 other companies----is it possible that they shipped most of the parts to Pakistan to be mated with domestic production of other parts? Pakistan has a tradition of making a lot of sheet brass products and doing crude castings.----but I cannot see them copying things like the butt end to the letter because that is a Tromsa butt end and although it is similar, the throwoff does not appear to be Tromsa.I have 8 Tromsa throwoffs at hand and not one looks quite like that one.They are either cast steel with nickel and then chrome or later chrome on white metal-----the one in the photo looks to be cast aluminum and has a flattened profile facing out-----very un-Tromsa. The lugs are the lugs Tromsa used from about 1972(?) until the 80's and are very different than the bullet shaped lugs with the grooved edge, that they made from the 1940's(at least) until 1972. The T-rod heads look a little taller than Tromsa and flatter but then they could have changed that anytime. The muffler is a Tromsa muffler from the 50's up to the early 60's------curious,this ones design is the same but it looks a little smaller and the pad base is square rather than round. Hoops are Tromsa or Tromsa style. My guess is that all of the stamped parts were shipped from Tromsa(Tromsa lugs are stamped or later plastic) to be mated with domestic parts from Tromsa supplied molds or patterns. Tromsa Mfg. heads as well, so likely they would have been supplied.----- badge is Vintage Pakistan AS is the vent.Tromsa drums have the largest vent I have ever seen, its about 1/2" across or on the snare drums the vent was small, ungrometted and tucked in behind the tail of the throwoff ,out of sight, as is this drum. I'd like to buy it.

Thanks calfskin for all the info. alittle more on this drum,the shell is brass nickel finish,rims are steel with nickel too,strainer is brass or pot metal nickel finish and i have the missing piece in my parts i have how cool,but the thing that gets me are the lugs they are "Copys'' of the 50s 60s rogers bread and butter lugs made the same way with the mounting screws taps bent over the ends of the lugs just like Rogers but these lugs are made much better than Rogers made not as thin,and heavy they are brass or some other type of metal with nickel finish,Lugs ate no cracks like the Rogers lugs do...Sorry the drum is Not for sale i got it off ebay sometime ago for 10.01+ 20.00 shipping..i was the only bidder on the drum it started at 9.99 ...Mikey

yea---- researching a little and communicating with someone who knows TROMSA better than I, we both agreed that the hoops, butt and muffler frame look to be original TROMSA(it would be really hard for someone else to make exact stamps for those parts). The throwoff,T-rods,muffler pad,and shell may have been from TROMSA supplied patterns or just based on a TROMSA drum at hand. I at first thought that those lugs were the same as the double sided lugs that TROMSA introduced in the 70's but no; they are more rounded and have the channel for the bead. One possibility put forward by my contact is that a dealer sold the maker a bunch of TROMSA parts. I would like to see the muffler knob. Tromsa knobs are quite unique and elaborate----turned brass,with chrome,knurled edges and a specifically rounded inside surface to accomodate the slight pitch angle change as the muffler is moved. It is of interest because it looks very much like TROMSA had a hand in its production. What kind of heads did it have?

I did some looking around and found this drum on ebay in the U.S. its a 60s Tromsa snare dont know the name of the finish but if you look at the strainer its the same one that is on my drum but smaller...Oh starting price is 79.00 or buy it now for 99.00+ 22.00 shipping...Check out the photos of the listing....Mikey

I think it is called gold pinstripe or gold sparkle pinstripe. Sonor and Trowa used it too. Also silver,green and I think red existed. The wrap seldom stands up over time but this one looks pretty good. You can see the similarity between the two drums. Some parts are good copies and others look original. One theory put forward by my knowledgeable friend in Germany is that perhaps a dealer sold the Pakistani company some parts and they copied the rest. I've got 10 of those throwoffs going back into the 40's and although similar they are not the same. Tromsa never had those flattened surfaces to the casting----mounting screws were allways plated and around 30 mm apart. I'd like to see the knurling on the adjuster and on the muffler knob. Tromsa had 3 incarnations of that----all distinguishable

There were 2 lengths of the throwoff, used depending on the depth of the drum because Tromsa made a lot of shallow drums-----70mm,90mm,100mm; or roughly 2 3/4",3 1/2" and 4" and just the tail is different, either 40 mm from mounting holes to the tip or 65 mm. Sometimes the 40 mm is more or less because it seems they cast the long one and then cut them off.