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Slingerland-to buy or not to buy
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Black/brass badge and serial 167xxx is consistent with '68. The grommet does appear to have been tampered with and seeing a close up of the WMP I am even more suspect of a re-wrap. As stated earlier the super set-o-matic is a post factory addition. The snare does not appear to be one of the upper level offerings. More pictures/info needed to make an informed purchase.
As slingerfan points out, we just need more info and pictures. The bottom line, IMHO, is that this is a set that needs to be checked out by someone who really knows Slingerland and can sort through all the inconsistencies.
-Mark
I think they're a re-wrap done well, but in any event, it's a beautiful set, and if you're serious, make a lower offer. The Super Set-O-Matic is a much more useful tom holder than the original, which I cannot stand. You can barely adjust it. Just an awful piece of hardware.
Bob... I can understand why you dislike the original set-o-matic tom holder. I grew up playing drum sets with tom holders that clamped on to the bass drum rim and rail consolettes. In my case, the drummer adjusted to the hardware's positioning of the toms. The positioning might not have been ideal. But, after a little while, it was just fine and dandy. My brand new 1961 Rogers set had all of the Swivomatic doo-dads including my snare drum mounted on my bass drum. A young drummer (including me) could get spoiled by all that Swivo stuff. My first Slingerland set in the late 1960's had the chrome version of the double set-o-matic. It took me all of one gig to feel comfortable with the limited adjustability of this hardware. I guess that it's just my nature to be able to adjust to the limitations of the gear.
We know that Remo drum heads are a creamy, off-white colour. The heads in the pic up top have a blue-ish cast, therefore we know that the drums are more yellow or creamy than they appear in the pic.Mitch
I think you're seeing the heads as blueish because they are partially reflecting that blue background....my 2 cents.
That grommet looks waaaaaay more messed with than it should. The bass drum hoop paint looks too immaculate for drums with grommets that look like that one in the pic. If there's going to be wear and tear, then it shouldn't be on the grommets. It should be on the painted parts....see what I'm getting at?Methinks rewrap.
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I think you're seeing the heads as blueish because they are partially reflecting that blue background....my 2 cents.
Good call it's possible and even likely the blue backdrop is playing a part. Still it does look like a daylight shot which can be a bit blue. More of a general thing when looking at drum pics - check the colour-cast on the heads for an indication of what the wrap might look like in person, because we know what the heads should look like.
Mitch
These have black and brass badges which places them somewhere before 1970. These are re-wraps. The WMP is too white (Slingerland's WMP had more blue in it). The "chips" are too small. This is the standard aftermarket WMP that's available nowadays.
The "Slingerland is Percussion" motto was added in 1971. The double spur option was offered on select kits (usually those with a 24" BD) beginning in about 1971. The Super-Set-O-Matic was introduced in sometime in 1976-77. The vent/badge grommet on the 10x14 tom is too low. In sum, this is a kit pieced together from orphans, and whomever paid $1500 or thereabouts for this thinking they were buying an all-original time-capsule got bamboozled.
Looks like a beautiful set. Ditch the 14, use one of the SSOM arms as a single (base plate is luckily in the right place) for the 13 and you basically have a Buddy Rich setup only missing a couple of cymbal mounts on the bass drum and with the more sensible 18" floor instead of dual 16s. Price seems high for Slingerlands though, regardless. Especially if rewrapped.
Well someone got it.
Gorgeous set, even if a re-wrap. I think $1000 would have been a good price.
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