Cymbals did not automatically come with the drums. They had to be purchased separately.

[COLOR="DarkRed"]But drum co. catalogs often offered 'stock' cymbals with their sets. Are you positive there is no stamp on 'em anyhwere ? Look for one - it may be tiny. Also can you post a photo ?[/COLOR]

Okay, the largest is 15 1/2" diameter and has the Zildjian logo.

Looks like turkish(?) characters on top, below that is AVEDIS. Below that is 'ZILDJIAN CO. , GENUINE TURKISH CYMBALS, MADE IN USA'

It has what looks like loose rivets in four spots evenly spaced around the perimeter about 1 1/8" in from the outside edge.

There are two 13 3/8" diameter that have the same logo but no rivets.

One 11 1/8" diameter and one 11" diameter with the same logo.

The last may not even be part of the set but its 11" in diameter and is very thin. I can flex it with my fingers. Instead of a stamping it looks like it has an ink stamp logo that is round, about an inch in diameter and has lettering I can't make out.

Also there are three cowbells with the set, any ideas on how to identify the manufacturer?

Thanks much for the help.

Like this?

[img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/laphilharmonic/Benjian%20Made.jpg[/img]

Thats It!!

So what is it?

If it has no actual trademark, then its an Ajaha. These were Italian made cymbals, and that ink stamp says: "Made in Italy".