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Scam Alert for VDF Members

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Yesterday a post was made in good faith that a Wood Dynasonic was available on CL in Toronto. It smelled like a rat to me so I replied to discover the origins or methods of scamming being used here.

Here is the reply I recieved from the scammer in response to my inquiry. It has the semll of S*** all over it;

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Patrick Donley wrote:

I need your full name and address for I can start the shipping to you and Clickaparcel will send you an invoice in which they will mention all the transaction details The shipping is free. The transaction is pretty simple : you will receive the invoice and this mean that I sent the unit and after you receive this invoice you must send the money to their agent . Immediately after the transfer will be checked Clickaparcel will come with the package at you. The money will stay on hold until you decide if you keep the item or not. If the unit has a problem or something that is wrong you will have 10 days to send it back and you will receive the money back. Everything is through Clickaparcel, you have insurance from them and you are covered. Let me know.

I know CL is notorious for this type of operation and it seems that scammers have done their due diligence with the wood Dynasonic. The english grammar of the response is terrible and poorly written indicating forein origin. The problem is the ad was reasonably well-written. Scammers familiarizing themselves with the value and market history of the drum to make a quick $$ is obvious here. The ad has been pulled and I hope that someone did not fall prey to this dirty deal...

-kellyj

"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing..."
Posted on 13 years ago
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kellyj!...

THANKS!... and I pulled the thread/post showing this CL ad as we don't want anyone getting involved with that scam by mistake!

Tommyp

Posted on 13 years ago
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Notice that the response never specifically mentions a drum, Dynasonic or otherwise. It's always "the unit" or "the package". A dead giveaway that it's a scam...

Posted on 13 years ago
#3
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Thanks for pulling that Tommy P.

Yes, scammers do their research on a high end product, drastically reduce the market price knowing that a few will fall prey. I responded to the last e-mail above mentioning I would need to see the drum; no response!

Unfortunately, its a common practice. I deal quite a bit in telescopes and astronomy equipment parts in an astronomy used equipment forum and its common there for the same types of scams to appear from time to time.

BEWARE!

-kellyj

"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing..."
Posted on 13 years ago
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Actually, the ad wasn't posted in good faith... it was pretty obvious it was a fake

Posted on 13 years ago
#5
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From Tommyp

kellyj!...THANKS!... and I pulled the thread/post showing this CL ad as we don't want anyone getting involved with that scam by mistake!Tommyp

Tommy & KellyJ,

It's this kind of policing and oversite that makes VDF such a great place, and ensures that both gurus and novices alike don't get ripped off. Thank you both for looking out for us.

Mike C

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
Posted on 13 years ago
#6
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Every time I put a set on CL I get a scam response wanting me to cash a cashiers check and keep a extra 50$ or whatever and send the remainder to a shipping agent who will pick up the set. Some fool sent me a cashiers check for 3000.00 for a $500 set. I knew it was bogus but it looked really good. Whoever made it knew what they were doing. I got the same foreign english, India or middle east? I turned it in to my bank and when the guy wrote me back accuseing me of keeping his money I wrote back that his cashiers check was in good hands with the FBI. Never heard another peep out of him.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Nicely done! Way to pin him down...

Here's the latest communication from my scam friend somewhere out there?? Says he doesn't have a phone number but ask him anything I want...What do you think what should I ask the thief?

Patrick Donley to me

show details 7:00 PM (10 minutes ago)

I don't have here a phone number but you can ask me here anything you want.

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:56 AM, Kelly Sibthorpe wrote:

Hi Patrick,

I need your contact info first and your phone number so I can speak with you.

Thanks,

Kelly

"It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing..."
Posted on 13 years ago
#8
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when something seems to good to be true there u got it

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
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once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 13 years ago
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Now get this, this is hilarious to me. When I asked the guy why he could not give me his phone number so I could speak to him he told me he had a disability.

He said he was deaf. So a deaf guy is buying a drum set. ok. Mind Blowi

Posted on 13 years ago
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