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Roxy drums??

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Someone is selling these and say mande is west Germany? Are they any good?

Thanks, Richard

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Hello. yes, I am selling them. You are welcome to come over and check them out if you like. The ROXY drums are located near Tysons Corner, Virginia. I see you are in DC. Judge them for yourself. I would appreciate your opinion.

rox on

~em

Posted on 15 years ago
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I follow auctions on German eBay from time to time as I like German vintage gear. Some Roxy stuff crops up ocassionally. The last one I saw had a beautiful wrap and, from the detailed photos, the shell looked well made. Snare mechanism was a little cheap, along with some of the other hardware, and this seems to be the norm with a lot of their drums. So, a budget range, perhaps. That doesn't mean that they don't sound good, though.

IIR, they were made in Hamburg. I'm following a snare at the moment on eBay that might be a Roxy:

Ebay Item #330344142161

[FONT=Arial]Snare Drum Durchm. 36cm höhe 15cm. [/FONT]In Rot. Trotz Alter und Gebrauchsspuren einwandfrei bespielbar. Snareteppich ohne Beschädigungen. Leider kann ich keinen Hersteller nennen. Da Schild ist bestimmt abgefallen. Privatverkauf ohne Garantie. Ebay wie immer ich, Transport der Käufer.

I won't be bidding, just curious what it will go for. Can't be 100%, but it looks identical to the last Roxy I saw on eBay (it had the original heads with Logo, plus a badge).

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Posted on 15 years ago
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[COLOR="DarkRed"]That's a pretty cool kit....not many German Roxys come up often. You usually see the Japanese ones..but the German ones are few and far between....[/COLOR]

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Hi Gerry,

If I'm right, ROXY was the budget line of TRIXON ...

But I'm not sure, although I'm from Germany and I know

TRIXON from the beginning of my drumming back in the 70s.

ROXY states on the badge 'Roxy' and 'Hamburg Wandsbek'.

TRIXON was produced in a town called Hamburg (in other

parts of it, called 'Bramfeld' and 'Reinbek') - but I wonder

whether there were two manufacturers existing in Hamburg ...???

Furtheron: the lugs are similar/ equal to Trixon parts ...!

You may compare the ebay offer with this website:

http://www.trixondrums.de/trixon/trixon.htm

Again: I'm not a specialist in Trixon ... so my knowledge is NOT

for sure!

Ralf from Germany

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 15 years ago
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From Ralf

Hi Gerry,If I'm right, ROXY was the budget line of TRIXON ...But I'm not sure, although I'm from Germany and I knowTRIXON from the beginning of my drumming back in the 70s.ROXY states on the badge 'Roxy' and 'Hamburg Wandsbek'.TRIXON was produced in a town called Hamburg (in otherparts of it, called 'Bramfeld' and 'Reinbek') - but I wonderwhether there were two manufacturers existing in Hamburg ...???Furtheron: the lugs are similar/ equal to Trixon parts ...!You may compare the ebay offer with this website:http://www.trixondrums.de/trixon/trixon.htmAgain: I'm not a specialist in Trixon ... so my knowledge is NOTfor sure!Ralf from Germany

Ralf, thanks for the additional info. Yes, I've heard the rumour that Roxy were the budget version of Trixon - that's what a listing for a Roxy snare I saw on eBay reckoned - but I've found nothing to substantiate this claim.

Although the Trixon lugs do look similar, so do those of many other German drum manufacturers of the time - the lugs are what I love about vintage German stuff, incidentally. Even some UK stuff had that style - Ajax, for example. I was also unable to find any mention of Roxy on the Trixon site. Anyone know for sure?

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Posted on 15 years ago
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... those of many other German drum manufacturers of the time ...

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No, Sir: there have been just four (4) in West Germany: Sonor, Trixon, Rimmel and Lefima, and maybe three in the 'GDR' German Democratic Republic (= East Germany): Trowa, Tromsa and Tacton. And at that (60s) time it really was nearly impossible that Eastern Germany drumsets passed the border to Western Germany.

Furtheron, Tromsa, Trowa and Tacton used other stuff/ hardware.

...So we're considering just four manufacturers in Western Germany in the 60s ... - And the ebay pics don't look like others than Trixon's to me.

Ralf

Finally, this guy might be of help:

http://www.drummermagazin.de/0209_re/mysterium.php

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 15 years ago
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From Ralf

...So we're considering just four manufacturers in Western Germany in the 60s

That, to me, is a lot considering the number of drum manufacturers in the UK at the time! (about the same number, if you exclude their budget subsidiaries) :^)

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Posted on 15 years ago
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From Ralf

quote... those of many other German drum manufacturers of the time ...unquoteNo, Sir: there have been just four (4) in West Germany: Sonor, Trixon, Rimmel and Lefima, and maybe three in the 'GDR' German Democratic Republic (= East Germany): Trowa, Tromsa and Tacton. And at that (60s) time it really was nearly impossible that Eastern Germany drumsets passed the border to Western Germany.Furtheron, Tromsa, Trowa and Tacton used other stuff/ hardware....So we're considering just four manufacturers in Western Germany in the 60s ... - And the ebay pics don't look like others than Trixon's to me.RalfFinally, this guy might be of help:http://www.drummermagazin.de/0209_re/mysterium.php

This is my first post here. === I have a bunch of Roxy drums---6 snares,one pair bongos and 3 kits; at least those that are badged as such. I also have,2 more unbadged kits and 5 more unbadged snares. All have the same shell construction with the slight difference that a couple of the bass drums are beech 3 ply with beech rerings whereas the standard Roxy construction was 3 ply poplar with beech rerings. Roxies were remarketed by a man named Rudolf Linnek who relabelled Tromsa drum cartons for principally export to N.A.For a while he had drums made in the orient for him. It appears that Tromsa badged them for him in the factory, whereas they seldom badged their own drums, hence my unbadged drums which are identcal to the Roxies are likely Tromsas(Tromsa made their own heads and some came labelled as such). Tromsa also made drums for Kings,Hohner for a while,Concorde,Luxor,Voss,Lindberg and Korri. Tromsa was a West German company and only ceased production quite recently(early 90's). Although Tromsa made their own hardware and also marketed cymbals by Meinl and Paiste, some of the Roxy hardware is a bit different and could have a different origin outside of the Tromsa factory. The origin of Roxy cymbals is unknown but they are stamped West Germany.-----hope this clears things up a bit.

Posted on 14 years ago
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^ Excellent info, thanks!

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Posted on 14 years ago
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