I don't remember which parts Jim sells as a complete unit. I think that the rod and the tilter come a-la-carte (separately) in the parts menu. The Rogers set that I ordered in 1961 was not a model shown in the catalog. But, it resembled the two you picture from the catalog. My Black Diamond Pearl set 8x12, 16x16, 14x20, and matching 5x4 snare drum were all Holiday series drums. I had the snare drum, small tom, one cymbal, and bass drum spurs all attached by Swivomatic collets and arms.

Yes, pic 2 is of the cymbal arm and pic 3 is of a tilter. With an extension arm, the hex rod directly under the cymbal felt (pic 3) can be longer, perhaps up to 6" or so. They came in several lengths.

Dave

Thanks for the responses.

So would the stand alone tilter (320R-photo 3) fit over the 18" hex rod (photo 2) where the threading is and the tension pin would prevent it from going any further? It looks like it tightens down onto the hex rod with a drum key operated screw.

Thanks for pointing out the 325R tilter extension is actually the piece with the ball one one end and the tilter threads on the other, directly below the felt in photo 3.

So is the 331R "Internal Cymbal Holder" the 18" hex rod with the threading and tension pin on one end (photo 2)?

OK... Here's the rig that I have had since before I acquired the pictured Top Hat set of 1966 Dayton-labeled Rogers drums. I bought both pieces at the Chicago drum show about eight years ago. I don't think the two pieces (bought separately) cost me more than $40.00. The short rod measures nine inches end to end and the tilter complete unit with the extension rod measures thirteen inches end to end. I was knocked out when I discovered how well these two pieces mount on the floor tom extra Knobby fixture to eliminate the need for a cymbal stand. And, look how the Top Hat mounting rig affords another place to mount a cymbal. Is there any wonder why I love Swivo era Rogers drums? designer Joe Thompson was a magician.

Combination can be set up several ways with different combinations.

18" hex rod with threaded end by itself.

The tilter can be put on tom. The hex rod will bottom out before the cross pin - which is there to prevent the hex rod from sliding into the drum.

Some tilters have the extended rod built into it.

Add one of several length short hex rod (internally threaded to fit onto any 1/4-20 cymbal connection, movable or fixed) to extend the position of the cymbal.

Lots of possible combinations depending on what/where you want the cymbal to sit.