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Rogers R-380 Snare

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Hi folks -

I just finished cleaning up a Rogers R-380 snare. It had the original heads when I got it, though I installed new consumables so it would sound tops - and indeed it does. I noticed that there is not one of these in the gallery and thought it would be a good candidate to add. I do not know the process of submitting pics for the snare drum gallery, so I just thought I would throw these pics up here. I need to clip the straps, but just happened to have it outside to show a friend today - and thought I would snap some shots.

The lugs are very heavy and all these parts are top grade quality stuff - a steel shell, and thicker hoops (2.3mm I suppose). I have heard that these are quite close to other Rogers snare models (same shell as ______).

It will look and sound nice with my White Pearl R-380 kit that I just got recently....though that is a project that will take quite a while before I can afford to re-wrap - as all the wrap is split (on every drum). That kit is 68-69, not sure - but surely the first of the R-380s.

These (including this snare) were made by Yamaha and indeed there is a small 'made in Japan' sticker on this snare shell. At the same time, it is engineered by Rogers. In my opinion - the best of both worlds. I tend to see things as glass half full - It's a Rogers/It's a Yamaha - cool!

PLEASE don't let this turn into a big debate over this Real Rogers vs. Asian Crap. Those who tend to muck that up are simply not knowledgeable about the first generation of the R-380s and don't know that they were made by Yamaha and head and shoulders above the rest of the MIJ at that time. Note: I have learned that 67-68ish is right when Yamaha was just starting to make drums. That makes it more interesting to me as well. The toms/BD are BIRCH and something else. Very Heavy drums. Nice, thick, high grade drums.

Someday I will get that kit re-wrapped and will post those pics up here. Need $200 to wrap (at least) and a floor tom leg mount.

Meanwhile, enjoy this pic of the snare....I'm lovin' it!

John

I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

2Timothy1:7
Posted on 12 years ago
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John!...

Check out this post of mine from 7/28/2009... you just might get a kick out of it. And yes... I still have BOTH these snare drums! http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=6161&highlight=Rogers+R-360&page=2

Tommyp

Posted on 12 years ago
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NEWSFLASH-

I know this is not the place for this - but thought I would throw this hear considering the snare connection here.....

I was just surfing through CL and found a full 5 piece Late 60s R-380 kit. This is a beautiful red one.....

This is in MICHIGAN

If you want this snare (it comes with this one I believe) easily worth 150, then you can spend another 200 for the 4 other pieces - a bargain for this kit. WOW - if I did not already snag up one of these, I would be jumping all over these.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/msg/3301921732.html

John

I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

2Timothy1:7
Posted on 12 years ago
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Drummerjohn... you did and EXCELLENT job!

Posted on 12 years ago
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Thanks for the compliment. I wish the knobs did not have the scratching - as that is about all that prevents this drum from being mint. The original heads that came on there though - those are pretty cool to have.

I have found that the best tuning for this drum thus far is the typical tuning for a Bonham snare, which is not my preferred tuning, but indeed sounds good if one is going for that sound. My frustration (to get any other sound) with this drum is possibly due to limitation from the Aquarian (Classic Clear) snare bottom. I usually run Remo Amb on the bottom. The Aq may be the cause of the sound being too splatty to me. Even alternate tuning does not seem to get rid of it.

I must say though - that the snare is indeed heavy and heavy duty in every way - quite a fine quality snare. I don't care who made it or engineered it.

John

I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

2Timothy1:7
Posted on 12 years ago
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I need to update this for the record. About a month ago I did a gig (first one in about a year!) and while prepping for it I discovered that the Aquarian head on the bottom had a tear on the edge. I replaced it with a USED Remo Ambassador snare side bottom (industry standard) and this snare came to life (despite said head being USED)!!!!!

It is now easily my best sounding metal snare I own and I would put it up against any other Rogers snare, as I have heard echoed on several forums.

I recently sold a PLAYERS one of these and they got a bargain and will be thrilled when they get it. They already knew about how it sounds like it cost 3-4 times as much. Credit all this to Rogers engineering. Home Run with the R-380 series......until 1980 :(

John

I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

2Timothy1:7
Posted on 11 years ago
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While these drums in excellent condition can be had most days for under a C Note, it is essentially a steel shell, lower cost, version of the Rogers PowerTone. I am also not sure this was a Yamaha built drum, or even Yamaha produced shell. At most... the hoops could be import. However, they do display the abrupt shoulder profile that screams Rogers, even though more rounded than USA Rogers of the same period. The throw off is Rogers through and through, being identical to the Powertone throw off of the period, the faceplate is unique to this series of drum. The lugs are a Strauss/Thompson design and appeared on Duplex made by Strauss after the sale of Rogers to CBS in 1966. They were excellent quality low cost drums. My praise is limited to the R series of the Mid 60s/early 70s.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 11 years ago
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