I've got an opportunity to purchase two Rogers "Swan Leg" Cymbal Stands that are allegedly in excellent condition. I'll be getting an "up close" look at each of them tomorrow evening. I'm trying to determine how much I should offer for each if they are, indeed, as advertised. Also, were these manufactured in the late 50s, the early to mid-60s, or during a later time period?
As usual, THANKS in advance for your help!D' Drummer
I sold two partial stands, just the bases. One had a Rogers sticker, the other didn't. The one without the sticker got 40-45, the one with the sticker got less. Go figure. If you're trying to flip them for money, I wouldn't pay more than 50-75 each. If you're buying them for a kit, you could go higher. If they're all original and good shape, they can go for 100-125 easy. Just watch out, there is some that look just like the real deal, but aren't
BBK
What will you take?
Does he know what Swan Leg Rogers stands even are?
Does he know what they are worth.........
Two in mint excellent condition are easily worth 200-500 dollars on any given day. If ya get them cheaper than 200, sacrifice an Acrolite to the drum gods.
Thats what they were selling at just a few months ago
People are getting hungrier.
BBK & Ploughman:
THANKS for the quick feedback.
The current owner DEFINITELY knows what the "swan leg" stands are since he advertised them as such. Although the gentleman's no longer an "active" drummer he informed me that he did play for a good portion of his life and still has his original Rogers kit from the early 60s. It will be interesting to see how this plays out!
Go for the kit. Sell a car or something, rent out your pool on weekends, fill it with dry ice and open a skating rink...... Rogers are the best.
Ploughman:
Your sense of humor is priceless. In regard to "going for the kit", I've already got a Rogers White Marine Pearl kit from the late 50s (B&B lugs) and a Rogers Black Diamond Pearl kit from 1961. What I don't have, however, are any of the original Rogers' "swan leg" cymbal stands.
When I picked up my Red Wine Ripple Rogers, 1964, it came with two cleveland era, and one later dayton era stand, also got the swivo hi hat and pedal, (missing the clamp of course). I figure I was lucky with that. Finding other swan leg stands in good condition has been a long exercise in patience. I wish you luck on that.
And thank you.
Ploughman:
I was fortunate enough to see some pics of your Rogers Kit -- flat out gorgeous!
I was very lucky with some of the accessories I got with my Rogers kits also. The BDP kit came with a George H. Way matching Casino Aristocrat snare drum in mint condition. I had been looking for one of these FOREVER and there it was as a "throw-in!" Go figure.
Although I have the Rogers "swan leg" Swiv-O-Matic 4401 hi-hat stand as well as the Rogers "swan leg" 4011 Pro snare drum stand, the Rogers "swan leg" 4403 cymbal stands are still on my "wish list." I've got a Camco F700 stand that was issued as original equipment with the late 50s Rogers kit and also have a Rogers flat base 4400R stand.
I'll let you know how it works out -- hopefully in a positive manner!
What your looking for in valuble Rogers stands is the tilter top and as mentioned, the sticker. The top should have a removable tilter. It can be removed with a drum key. The reason they are worth more is people like to put the extentions on, making them up to 12" longer and more accessible in hard to reach areas of play than the standard 3" tilters. As far as earlier Rogers late 50's and early 60's, many were actually made by Camco and sold with sets. The early 60's Rogers will have a yellow sticker like the one in eBay now. These can sometimes get 200+ as mentioned by Ploughman a reliable info source and all around nice guy too! The model of snare stands, I think the giant is a recreation of the famous Buck Rogers stand with swan legs that was made by W&A pat. in the 40's and still a very popular. The next model down is the pro, which is not as desirable.
Jeeze... I guess I have to chime in on this thread now... considering that I own 10 of them!... but ... I also gig with them as they are the hardware that was cataloged with the Rogers kits that I own/play with both kits being Buddy Rich models. So...
In reality, the stands you are referring to are the Rogers #4403 which was actually cataloged as the "Rogers PRO Floor Cymbal Stand". It was later on called the "Swan-Leg" and has come to be known by that name ever since. I understand what "Chopsontops" is saying in his post, but in reality, the reason these go for so much money is that Rogers cataloged/supplied this model stand with ALL their high end kits from approx. 1962 to 1970, being superceded by a different design in/around '73 or so. So...
All the guys that play and/or collect Rogers kits from this period, and arguably the most sought after/desired era for Rogers, are after these stands to complete their kits. The fact that the #325 Swivo Extension Cymbal Arm adds height/angle to the stand is NICE!... but not the reason for the demand, as it were. In addition: The Rogers "Swan-Leg" cymbal stands function in a dual way as they can be used WITHOUT the Swivo tilter for those that prefer their cymbals FLAT with no angle, ala Buddy, to name but one.
I do in fact gig on Rogers drums/hardware and have to say that it is a great design. Super sturdy, and very light... which is an added plus when they are in one's trap bag and being hauled around. "Ploughman" is right in there on the "cost" : I haven't seen many, if any, go for LESS than $150.00 each... and truthfully, usually more! I could probably fund my daughter's first semester of college if I sold all 10 of mine! :-)
Tommyp
