really nice.

Top heavy. But a cymbal would somewhat balance it. Made in the late 50s. Very rare color.

Very cool - Never seen one before.

One less stand to carry, YES!!

This Rogers kit features the "Knobby Snare Drum Stand" which was supposed to eliminate... well ... the snare drum stand! And it did too... except,

It wasn't overly sturdy, as you can imagine. It did have "limited" sucess, and a few units were sold, but most drummers still opted for the regular snare drum stand. I had a chance to play one of these, amd I have to say, while the drums were PURE Rogers and sounded GREAT!... there was a LOT of wobble with this particular mount. For a very light Jazz gig like a trio or quartet, it would be excellent.

The "Knobby Snare Drum Stand" was a late 50's item, and most of them seemed to show up around 1958 or so, which is also consistent with this particular kit. By the way, the wrap on this kit looks like "Mardi Gras Pearl", a rare wrap in it's own right! This would make a NICE collectible... but not overly gigable, at least by today's standards.

Tommyp

Thanks for the insights. It does seem as though I'd have the snare on the floor before I got to the bridge on the first song of the first set. The kit might be fine if I just used a snare stand and put the swiv-o on the shelf. I just bought my first Rogers snare and liked it so much, I started thinking about a whole kit. It seems I like vintage sets but vintage sizes on their own don't give me the full tone range I enjoy. I tend to like having an 8 and a 10 to the left of my 12. I believe I would have a hard time fabricating retro drums that would match the rest of the kit.

Do some research on Bread and Butter Lugs before you pull the trigger on this set. Its very collectable. I think its also likely to be a pain in the ass if you intend to use it much.

I have two mid 60s Rogers Beavertail kits, two mid 70s, and a set of XP8 drums from about 1980. The problems associated with the B&B lugs arent a concern with the beavertails.

Tommy might be able to tell you all the ins and outs on that. I have never owned a B&B drum.

Agreed!

This kit is VERY COLLECTABLE, but not a good "player"... for the reason's I gave prior with the "Knobby Snare Drum Mount", and the fact that it is early Rogers and has the Bread & Butter lugs. You certainly would want a Rogers kit with the Beavertails for gigging purposes... the Ploughman has it right!

The problem with the early B&B lugs is that they are made from cast Brass... and that is very soft... plus!, the tabs that attach the lug to the shell are merely bent over/drilled pieces of brass... again, very soft, and pretty unforgiving of vibration over time. Thus, these lugs almost ALWAYS have hairline cracks in 'em, and left unattended, will completely fail over time. The beautiful, completely redesigned Beavertail lug, solved that problem nicely! I have yet to see a cracked Beavertail!

Both my Rogers kits, a 1965 and a 1966, both Buddy Rich Models, have the Beavertails. I do have a nice collection of Rogers snare drums, and two of those have the B&B lugs. One is a 1963 COB Dynasonic... and amazingly, NONE of the lugs are cracked, which is kind of rare. So,

This kit is a beauty!... but not for use... at least in the "gig zone" that is. :-)

Regarding the 8" and 10" toms: You are correct there... those sizes just didn't exist until much later. In Rogers case, not until late 74 or so and up. Still, the Big R Rogers are nice drums!

Tommyp

Wow. Thank you so much for the info. No room in my house for museum pieces so I will pass on this one. Clearly you guys saved me some frustration.

Cheers.

Gary