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Rogers Cleveland Tone Control Question

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mac - I'm surprised you haven't run over to Home Depot, or Lowes etc. they all have pitch gauges you can use for free to find thread pitch on just about any size bolt.

John

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Posted on 9 years ago
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From mchair303

I know this has been discussed here before, but I can't find where...What thread size does the adjustment knob have on a Cleveland muffler? I'm missing the specialized shaped nut that fits into the muffler arm, so I thought I could substitue a standard barrel nut from Lowes or Home Depot and just grind it down to fit into the arm slot, but I haven't found anything that fits the thread (see pic below). It's neither a 10-24 nor a 10-32, so I figured maybe metric? Nope. It's gotta be something out of the ordinary. Anyone know? Did this thread size change through the Dayton or Fullerton periods? Appreciate any help. [Attachment: 79401]Mike

Hi Mike!

The thread is 10-32. I believe I have one of those specialty Rogers nuts. Let me look when I get home later today. I'm currently trapped with my girlfriend at her mom's house in Pasadena. The freeway is packed with people leaving the parade! If I have that part, it's yours!

Mark

Posted on 9 years ago
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Just checked my Fullerton Powertone.

And then I had to clean it........

It is 10-32 with an aircraft lock nut.

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Posted on 9 years ago
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Got it...It's an eXtra....

Pm me yr address...

I'm in Canada though.....Not sure what shipping will be.?

Tried mailing a hex bolt (for a rogers tom Arm) in an envelope ....it got ripped out of the paper..

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Posted on 9 years ago
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Mike,

I do have the part you need. I'm in southern California. Yours at no charge and free shipping. Always happy to help out fellow drummers! PM if interested.

Mark

Posted on 9 years ago
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GGD and Mark thanks for the thread size! You just saved me a trip. Perfect timing I woke up with a fever today and feel like crap. Thanks Gents.

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 9 years ago
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Guys,

Thank you so much for all your help. First, I'm surprised the thread is just the common 10-32, as the shaft would not thread smoothly into Lowes' mounted 10-32 thread gauge. This convinced salesmen at both Lowes and Home Depot that it couldn't be 10-32, but it wouldn't be the first time they were mistaken. Maybe the end of my shaft is stripped or peened to prevent the nut from backing off, and this prevented it from threading into the 10-32 gauge.

Mark: I'll PM you with my address. Thanks so much for your offer.

Kelly: Thanks also for your offer, but shipping will be easier if Mark and I keep this "in country".

Glenn: Hope you feel better, and glad that you didn't venture off into the cold just to find a barrel nut and locking nut for me.

Happy New Year everyone, and thanks again for all the expert help!

Mike

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
Posted on 9 years ago
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Thanks Mike and please keep us posted how things go.

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 9 years ago
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On the earlier drums, the threads were pinched with a needlenose pliers or similar tool after the tone control was assembled. On later drums, a locknut was used instead.

When disassembling an earlier unit, I try to chase the threads with a die before taking it apart. Sometimes this is not possible, because the die will not start on the mashed-up threads. In that case, with some lube and some patience and muscle, the shaft can be backed out of the slotted nut.

Posted on 9 years ago
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From idrum4fun

Mike,I do have the part you need. I'm in southern California. Yours at no charge and free shipping. Always happy to help out fellow drummers! PM if interested.Mark

Mark,

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I received the package and expected to see just the slotted nut in a small envelope, so I was stunned to find the slotted nut mounted on a "like-new" tone control shaft along with the proper locking nut and original spring. Geez, you practically gave me a whole tone control mechanism! Your generosity is greatly appreciated, and thanks to you, a Cleveland tom is now wearing the proper attire. Needless to say, I owe you one.

And congrats on scoring that "new" 14" Slingy FT. If I come across anything Slingerland, it will be on its way to you. Thanks again!

Mike

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
Posted on 9 years ago
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