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Rogers advice needed please! 20" Fullerton*bass drum spur collet catching on plate.

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I've been a longtime admirer of Rogers drums, and am a relatively new owner. Perhaps this is a common problem, but I couldn't find the exact issue in other threads: When I get to a certain point of tightening the bass drum spurs, the collet on one side starts catching/rubbing on the mount and I need to jam it past. The other side doesn't have this problem (I've attached pics of both so you can see the difference). It looks like the problematic one is at more of a sharp angle, but I'm not sure this is a case of two different angled plates. I could be wrong. I can take more pictures if it would be helpful. In the ones from the inside of the drum, the problematic collet/mount is actually the one without the chipped wood. I'm hoping getting some more eyes on this will be helpful, and appreciate would any thoughts. Thanks!

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Posted on 4 years ago
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Hi Delorso!

From your provided pictures, I does look like the one collet plate in question has an issue. Almost like the collet has bent the plate a bit. Another plate might be needed to verify this, but that does appear to be the issue. Where are you located?

-Mark

Posted on 4 years ago
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Hi Mark,

I'm in Los Angeles. I also thought it might be bent, but I can't imagine how. It feels very sturdy, to the point where some extreme force would have been needed to bend it in the first place, yet I can't see any other signs of damage that I assume would go along with that. But then again, they're old drums, so who knows what they've seen over the years! I think you're probably right; I'll probably need the just replace the plate and hope for the best...

Posted on 4 years ago
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-Mark

Posted on 4 years ago
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Quick check - try reversing the spurs and see if that makes a difference. Also try switching the collets and see what that shows.

Take the plates off and take a picture of them side by side to check the angles and if one is slightly distorted.

Posted on 4 years ago
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Yeah, I tried swapping the spurs & collets and had the same problem. I'm pretty sure it's the plate, and taking them off and comparing them is a good idea. I'll do that tomorrow. Thanks!

From amosguy

Quick check - try reversing the spurs and see if that makes a difference. Also try switching the collets and see what that shows.Take the plates off and take a picture of them side by side to check the angles and if one is slightly distorted.

Posted on 4 years ago
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The plate looks flush to the shell at the red arrow, then a gap appears at the green arrow and continues to the end of the plate. That raises the carriage bolt at that end.

Almost 100% certain the plate is bent. The trick will be applying the right clamping and pressure to get it back in shape.

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Posted on 4 years ago
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Yes, seeing what you've highlighted in that picture makes me even more inclined to agree with you that it's a bent plate. Mark is actually sending me a spare one he has - yet another reason to love this forum - so hopefully that will solve this. Now it's just a matter of figuring out how this happened! Seems like such a strange thing, considering I can't see any other signs of mis-use, abuse, etc.

Thanks for your input!

From DownTownFarmer

The plate looks flush to the shell at the red arrow, then a gap appears at the green arrow and continues to the end of the plate. That raises the carriage bolt at that end.Almost 100% certain the plate is bent. The trick will be applying the right clamping and pressure to get it back in shape.

Posted on 4 years ago
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Over the many years of its life it's not a stretch to think that the drum might have been dropped or had fallen in such a way as to deform that plate. In the mid 1960s, after our band's two roadies stripped several adjustment fittings on my new Camco set and a few stands I politely asked them to just bring the drum equipment in and out of the van. Then, leave the setting up to me. I managed to "bounce" a metal Slingerland snare drum onto the stage floor which landed squarely on the Zoomatic throw-off.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 4 years ago
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Yes, I'm sending out a spare bracket that's just been sitting in a box for years! The cosmetics are fair, but the collet is perfect and the bracket isn't bent, so it should work perfectly.

Now, let's see some pictures of your drums! They appear to be green sparkle? Just don't see many Rogers drums in green!

-Mark

Posted on 4 years ago
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