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Return of the Vintage Companies

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We have been watching Rogers come back to life lately, Slingerland is now in DW's hands and we shall see what happens with that. We did see Leedy snare drums for a while. Ludwig and Gretsch never really went away.

But of the remaining most popular American drums, Camco will probably not come back even though the were great drums and have risen to command very high price tags in the vintage market. After all, how can you resurrect Camco with lugs that look just like a DW? In the end, you Camco guys will have something very unique in vintage drums.

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Camco lugs look just the DW lugs?????? That's a reversal of reality.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
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Don't forget about the re release of the Trixon (Vox?) Speedfire bass drum kits!

"God is dead." -Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead." -God
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I sincerely doubt that "Camco" will ever return to it's former glory.

Hoshino would have to relinquish the trademark name and whatever else they have.

(Interesting question here: who has ownership of the Oaklawn/Chanute/Beckman factory documents and memoranda?)

DW would have to decide to move on from the Turret lug to something else, which I highly doubt will ever happen.

Lastly, any startup company who somehow obtains all this is faced with an uphill battle of establishing itself in a worldwide music industry. Its not 1956 anymore with Mom & Pop music shops in every town.

The most likely scenario I can envision is the DW "juggernaut" negotiating the loose-ends and consolidating the name and company, then repackaging the Camco product as a high-end boutique line with a limited annual production, designed and marketed to those willing devotees ready to drain their bank accounts.

1974-75 Rogers Starlighter IV New England White 13/16/22 (w/Dyna)
1964-67 Rogers Blue Glass Glitter 12/14/16/20
early Oaklawn Camco Blue Moire 12/14/20
1926 Super Ludwig 5x14
1960-ish Ludwig COB 5x14 Super Sensitive
1960-ish Ludwig COB 6.5x14 Super Sensitive
1970 Ludwig COB Cut-Badge 5x14 Supra Phonic

Looking for a Camco Aristocrat SD in Blue Moire!!
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Who want Camcos when there is some neo- George H Way around?

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From O-Lugs

Don't forget about the re release of the Trixon (Vox?) Speedfire bass drum kits!

I did limit my comment to American drum makers. But yes, the Trixons are back too.

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Ah, I forgot the George Way's. Good catch.

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Speaking of Camcos and draining bank accounts, this one is pretty nice. You investor types with a pile to spare might give this one some consideration on Reverb. I've had one Camco set. It had been refinished and I got the snare separately. Same snare as this kit has. I think it may be the nicest snare drum I've had. The throw-off has to be one of the best designs ever.

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From Dan Boucher

I did limit my comment to American drum makers. But yes, the Trixons are back too.

Oh....I didn't see the limitation in your initial post, but yeah I forgot that those drums were foreign. It just popped into my mind because of a recent thread that someone made about the egg shaped bass drum kit coming back. Personally, I wish that the conical shells would make a comeback. They are literally impossible to find in any kind of useable condition. Maxwell had some "time capsule" Trixon kits for sale awhile back, but even those had issues that simply couldn't be corrected without someone fabricating the replacement parts.

I'm also happy to see the Rogers kits looking good.

Camco will never come back.

As has been said before, Ludwig and Gretsch never went away.

I can't see the future music, at the moment, at all -much less the future of vintage reissue drums! But, it does give us something to talk about.

"God is dead." -Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead." -God
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From Dan Boucher

I did limit my comment to American drum makers. But yes, the Trixons are back too.

I have heard exactly ZERO good things about any of the Trixon products made here in the states.

Run, don't walk, from buying their stuff.

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