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Restoring my 20's Ludwig snare

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Picking up from my "impulse buy" thread. Here's the restoration thread. I already have a number of questions in my own mind about how far to take this resto. Anyway, here are the ebay pics prior to purchase when it was still a bit of a mystery:

[IMG]http://i.ebayimg.com/05/!B81rV+gBGk~$(KGrHqF,!hsEzMS6Kl1GBM4F3o54z!~~_12.JPG[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!B81rVcgEWk~$(KGrHqJ,!hYEze!PSTv6BM4F3o!D+w~~_12.JPG[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i.ebayimg.com/20/!B81r(UgBWk~$(KGrHqV,!iEEzLTcN8zTBM4F3rt+ew~~_12.JPG[/IMG]

Posted on 13 years ago
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Part way through stripping the paint from the shell:

[IMG]http://www.mountainserver.net/drums/lud20sresto/lud20sresto1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.mountainserver.net/drums/lud20sresto/lud20sresto2.jpg[/IMG]

And the lugs:

[IMG]http://www.mountainserver.net/drums/lud20sresto/lud20sresto3.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on 13 years ago
#2
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mountainhick - It’s interesting that it is painted white. Traditional Jazz great Baby Dodds painted his white (including the hoops) but Dodds left the lugs unpainted. The Dodds snare was 8 lugs too, and I don’t think anyone who has the “so called” Dodds set has his favorite metal shelled snare. I’m not saying this is the Dodds’ snare but it is closer to his than the ones they display with their museum sets.

I’m thinking the previous owner might have favored Baby Dodds as an influence. He must have added the light socket and female two prong electrical plug (not sure the two prong plug was all that common way back, but there are many others here that know better than I), as they did way back, to keep the calfskin heads more stable when tuned. How cool!

White shell and hoops would make a nice Dodds tribute restoration!

Cool1

“In fact your pedal extremities are a bit obnoxious”. – Fats Waller
Posted on 13 years ago
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That looks like one cool project! Very nice indeed..

Lots of work but what a great old drum you have there. Those light bulbs in the drums back in the day must have made for some interesting stage presence as well as the head warming function.

Posted on 13 years ago
#4
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Thought about what to do with this for quite a while and decided to sand off the nickel on the exterior, patch the hole cut for the electric socket, buff it, then patina it and re-assemble.

It took about 45 min and half a dozen 400 grit sanding disks to remove the nickel.

I have a slingerland chrome on brass shell that has badly damaged edges which I got with purchase of a kit a year or two ago which i used as a donor for the needed brass. I cut a piece to fit the hole in the Ludwig shell and a piece as a backing plate. Ground off and sand papered all the brass surfaces that needed to adhere together, applied some flux, clamped them all in place and silver soldered the mess together. Worked like a charm! Then I filed off the chorme still on the repair piece, filed it flush, sanded and started buffing. Buffing the whole shell with my meager bench grinder is taking quite a while, so i paused to show the work so far:

Here's the hole in the shell:

[img]http://www.mountainserver.net/drums/lud20sresto/lud20sresto04.jpg[/img]

The repair pieces cut from the slingerland shell:

[img]http://www.mountainserver.net/drums/lud20sresto/lud20sresto05.jpg[/img]

Filler piece in place, and you can see the surfaces sanded so flux/solder will adhere:

[img]http://www.mountainserver.net/drums/lud20sresto/lud20sresto06.jpg[/img]

Still clamped and soldered in place

[img]http://www.mountainserver.net/drums/lud20sresto/lud20sresto07.jpg[/img]

Super closeup of the repair after filing flush and mostly buffed out:

[img]http://www.mountainserver.net/drums/lud20sresto/lud20sresto08.jpg[/img]

And finally the view from the inside:

[img]http://www.mountainserver.net/drums/lud20sresto/lud20sresto09.jpg[/img]

Posted on 13 years ago
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You know...that didn't come out badly at all! Shouldn't be noticeable from a distance. Nice work! I'm not sure how that Ludwig drum is going to feel about having a Slingerland "skin graft", but it seems to have "healed" OK.

Gary G.
1963 Ludwig Gold Sparkle Hollywood Kit
Ludwig Collection: 10 Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Customized Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Vintage Foot Pedals, 1 Single Value Bugle
Posted on 13 years ago
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The shell prior to patina:

[IMG]http://www.mountainserver.net/drums/lud20sresto/lud20sresto10.jpg[/IMG]

The repair in context

[IMG]http://www.mountainserver.net/drums/lud20sresto/lud20sresto11.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on 13 years ago
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Really enjoying watching this project progress. Good work!

Currently playing for loud rock and roll gigs:
1982 Ludwig Classic in white Cortex, 24-13-14-18 + Coliseum snare
For quieter gigs:
Early '70s Whitehall Tiger Eye Pearl 20-12-14-14
Neglected but thinking about:
Early '70s Sonor Champions in Rosewood, 22-12-13-16
Posted on 13 years ago
#8
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Yeah,no kidding..........nice job!

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 13 years ago
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After seeing the latest pics of the completed shell, I say again...nice work. Can't wait to see it all put back together!

Gary G.
1963 Ludwig Gold Sparkle Hollywood Kit
Ludwig Collection: 10 Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Customized Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Vintage Foot Pedals, 1 Single Value Bugle
Posted on 13 years ago
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