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Restoraion of Czechoslovakian Amati Kraslice drums

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Hello forum!! :D

My name is Tova and I am 17 years old. I have two drum sets at home. One is a normal black Premier Cabria and the other is a more interesting Amati. I don't have any pictures at the moment but I will post one that is the same model. http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=387006&stc=1&d=1284206221 This is the model I have at home. But I have a lot of problems with it /: I'm missing the bass pedal, loads of hardware, and even the hardware I DO have, much of it is broken. I'm very dissapointed at the poor material that the screws are made from. Also one of the hoops isn't original and the screws, even though all from Amati are from like 3 different age periods.

The colour of my drums is oyster white (or well WAS oyster white anyway, it's more like horse-teeth yellow now). I got the whole set for 200€ on a Slovenian auction site, plus two brand new cycling shirts for free. Not sure if a bargain or the dumbest thing I've ever done in my life xD

In any case I'll post pictures soon. The good news I have is that at my music school, there is an attic full of spare parts for old amati drums since the school used to have at least 4 sets. And I might be able to get all that stuff for free if the head decides to write it off school property! Not so bad!

Anyway, can't wait to hear some suggestions. What I want to do is maybe get a nice new drum wrap for theese drums if I can. Thanks for reading!

ByeeToilet

Posted on 11 years ago
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Hello! Post some pictures. There are a ton of folks on the forum that will be able to help you restore your drums.

fishwaltz
Posted on 11 years ago
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Indeed. Welcome. It's great to see a teenager that is into vintage drums. Or I to drums enough to want to tinker. Please post some photos. I do have some quick thoughts for you:

Don't be too quick to replace the "horse teeth yellow" wrap. It will always be yellowed but you should be able to clean it to the point where it will look nice. Vintage, but nice.

Don't be too concerned about making this a completed set. Whether or not you have the bass drum pedal or correct cymbal stands is of much less or even no importance depending on what you want to do with the drums. Indeed some guys here like to restore sets all the way to the correct throne and cymbals. That is great but not a prerequisite. In my case, I just want the drums. I use the same modern hardware for all of my kits so my primary focus is to simply get the drums themselves in top notch shape. In your case that might make the entire process seem a little less daunting.

Having access to a storeroom full of parts would be a dream come true for many on this site. Good luck with making that happen.

We will all look forward to photos and posting if your progress. There is no end to the help available here.

tnsquint
Very proud owner of a new Blaemire Snare 6.5 x 14 made by Jerry Jenkins "Drumjinx"
Posted on 11 years ago
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Hi!

Congrats on having your first Amati set! They can be fine drums, if treated properly. The hardware is... well, not that good. Please post detailed pictures of the drums and hardware and I'm sure you'll quickly get the answers you're looking for.

Welcome to the forum!

Sysl krysu nenahradi!

-196?-72 6ply White Oyster Amati
-1960s 3ply Red Sparkle Amati
- Zildjian, Paiste, Zyn, Istanbul

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Posted on 11 years ago
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From tnsquint

Don't be too quick to replace the "horse teeth yellow" wrap. .

Ha! Never heard of that phrase before. I envision a remake of Coldplay's "Yellow", just changing a few words here and there...an ode to old white marine pearl wrap.

The greatest gift you can give your family and the world is a healthy you. - Joyce Meyer
Posted on 11 years ago
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From tnsquint

...Don't be too quick to replace the "horse teeth yellow" wrap. It will always be yellowed but you should be able to clean it to the point where it will look nice. Vintage, but nice...

Perfect analogy! :)

fishwaltz
Posted on 11 years ago
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What up guys!

Sorry for taking so long :D I finnaly took some pictures of my set. My apologies for it not being very clean, and for the used up heads. I only got my Amati drum key yesterday becouse the previous owner didn't give me one and the only one who had a spare was my old drum teacher and I needed a while to meet up with him.

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/256/2/4/tova1_001_by_owotovaowo-d6m4tmo.jpg

Here, you can see the whole set. Not much to say, your basic Amati, with 3rd party cymbal stands... one of the bassdrum hoops is original and one not, as the guy I bought it from got the drums without one hoop. He put this weird thick black head in front that looks like it's painted with catran or something. It had an awful sticker on it saying ''Gates Expert'' ... (so it's saying Bill Gates is an expert? I don't know what the hell I'm talking about...)

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/256/3/f/tova1_002_by_owotovaowo-d6m4u4x.jpg This is one of the toms. Unfortunetly all of the Amati stickers are gone /: I don't know why they had to use stickers, badges would have made more sense... if anyone has them up for sale please let me know! Also the dampening mechanisms are broken on a few toms so I'd need some parts for that too.

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/256/a/c/tova1_006_by_owotovaowo-d6m4ugx.jpg Here is a picture of the bottom of one of the stands. I was very upset about his the chrome just peeled off here, as if it wee tinfoil. The part without it was very rusty and I tried to clean it with polish paste as much as I could.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/256/3/6/tova1_009_by_owotovaowo-d6m4vws.jpg Here you can see the alterations I did. The original hole was how should I say, eaten out so an M5 screw could not fit properly anymore. We drilled a bigger M8 hole and also put an M8 screw on the amati screw handle. This one looks great!

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/256/c/9/tova1_010_by_owotovaowo-d6m4wap.jpg Here you can see the yellow colour on the wrap, that my teacher would describe as 'Tobacco'. Not sure yet what I'll do about that..

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/256/e/5/tova1_013_by_owotovaowo-d6m4woi.jpg Here is the left part of the set from my view. The hihat stand is a Yamaha, actualy not sure what model this is, even though I'v searched for it, if anyone has an idea let me know : D

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/256/2/3/tova1_014_by_owotovaowo-d6m4x0q.jpg Here is the right part. Can't believe I still have a ride that says Premier on it.

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/256/a/f/tova1_017_by_owotovaowo-d6m4x9t.jpg Here are some examples of the different screws. If I had to guess, I would say that the one on the right is the original type. If I want an original set I need about 11 of them.. the one on the middle and on the left look like older amati to me. And in the middle at the bottom is the drum key, that is absoulety essential P: We're a machinist family and my grandpa made me my own key at first. Stunning job. It was better than the original one now that I see it. Too 'better'. I only gave him one screw to model the key on. But the screws are made so badly, that they're all a little different! So sometimes, the perfect key my grandpa made me wouldn't fit! What a disaster /:

Posted on 11 years ago
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I would try dishwasher detergent to get the dirt and grime off, and always use a sponge and 100 per cent cotton cloth so you don't scratch the wrap,the brown you are seeing could be nicotine, cleaner with ammonia in it like Windex will cut that easily.After that I would use a plastic cleaner restorer like Novus 1 and Two,or auto polishing compound works well,you would be surprised how well a wrap can come back from that treatment.

Material for a rewrap of a large kit like that would be expensive,like 300.00 - 400.00 U.S.

Also soaking the lugs and t rods rims and such in warm water and dish washing soap will clean then up nicely,I usually use liquid auto wax afterward.

The inside of the shells looks nice,and you will learn some valuable skills on the restoration,and have a fun kit at the end.

Nice to see a young person see the history and vibe to those old drums and want to make them make music again.

Welcome to the forum by the way.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Hey guys!

So finnaly I've had some spare time now and I've taken the drums appart and started polishing the lugs, screws etc.. the insides of the drums are quite bad. Many of the screws in the inside were very very rusted, so much even, that they left imprints on the shells inside, witch is never a good thing.

But the good news is I've met a guy who has craptonns of all types of drums and hardware of all brands known to man and he has some of the spare parts I need!

Basicly, after about 4 hours of stripping I was left with about a shebox's worth of lugs and screws that need polishing, and shells that need work too.

Here's the hardware: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/085/6/2/amati2_003_by_owotovaowo-d7bqsz5.jpg?1

The shells: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/085/1/0/amati2_009_by_owotovaowo-d7bqtzk.jpg

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/085/f/3/amati2_002_by_owotovaowo-d7bqv5a.jpg

The rimms: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/085/0/4/amati2_004_by_owotovaowo-d7bqurz.jpg

So yeah, lots of work ahead : D

Posted on 10 years ago
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