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So I got this almost by accident - I didn't actually expect to win the auction, but here it is :) Just the shell, no hardware of any kind. Now I don't know much about Slingies of that era, but I did some poking around and here's what I think - any info or comments are welcome...

The ad stated that this is a 14"x7" 1940s 3-ply shell, no extra holes, that's been painted over and that the badge is fully original and untampered. The part about the 3 plies seems to be true, this would make it a Student model (mahogany-poplar-mahogany and maple re-rings). There is a faint line on the re-ring, right below the bottom of the bearing edge, the ring itself is about an inch thick. So far, this seems consistent with late 1940s/early 1950s drums. The part about no extra holes isn't true - someone drilled a couple of them to fit a muffler other than the original (look to the left of the original holes).

The part about being painted over is obvious - yes it has, all the way to the bearing edge and over it. I used 320 sandpaper to try and clean them a bit, but I didn't go as far as the plies. There's no seam as such, but an overlap of about 4" - not really sure if the drum had ever been wrapped or not. The badge seems to have been painted over or something, not sure whether it's ever been removed.

Alex

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Posted on 10 years ago
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More pics. There seems to be a signature of some kind inside the shell - and a pencil mark on the re-ring, so either this was wrapped originally or was going to be wrapped at some point.

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I would say yours is a student model Radio king, due to the absence of the holes for the RK brackets, But they also did make 3 ply radio kings. If you are thinking of wrapping it. Try to see how heads fit with just the way it is now painted. It looks to be a good shell build it up and play it for years to come.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
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"Chrome or Nickel" were often found written in cursive with a pencil inside some shells. You can thank Mark Copper for this bit of info. Yes Sir

Nice shell and great size!!

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
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That shell oughta sound great when you get-er done.....

Maybe hang a drumkey holder in the extra muffler holes ???

This was likely a painted shell originally.... a wrap would prolly make seating heads properly very tough, as VTM has pointed towards......

She may look great with a natural finish if you can get all the paint off.

The original paint, if it was painted, is likely lead-based.....be careful!

Nice shell waiting for some love!!

:):)

Kevin
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I think that may have been one of my auctions. The drum was never wrapped and most likely has blue and silver paint underneath. However, they did make plain mahogany shells. The badge puts the drum at around 1945-1947. This drum was not necessarily a "student" drum. Three ply shells were considered to be true Radio King snare drums. Doesnt have to be solid.

There was however, often a three digit number penciled inside on "true" student models. The model number was "157". They didnt really use the term "student" until 1948-49. Prior to that, #157 was just "wood shell drum". Because this aluminum badge drum had extension brackets, double flange hoops, etc., it would have been a Hollywood Ace Radio King with a three ply shell. A #157 usually had single flange hoops and clips.

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A Duco finished Hollywood Ace.

If I had this shell, I'd strip it and put a new Duco finish on it.

I think all of the parts to finish it up are available as repros.

-Erik
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Early '70's Slingerland New Rock #50 in blue agate (20-16-13-12)
Late '50's WFL Swingster/Barrett Deems in black/gold Duco
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early '70's Ludwig Acrolite
'80's Ludwig Rocker II 6 1/2" snare
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Thanks for the info guys. Yes Mark, I think this was one of yours. I'm only calling it 'student' because this is what I've found it to be called - like I said, so far my knowledge of old Slingies is rather limited. At the end of the day, what I want is to restore it as close to the original as possible. I've managed to locate some of the hardware, still looking for more stuff.

What about wrapping it? Head-fit aside, will the wrap 'choke' the sound at any rate? And how can I clean the bare wood without using sandpaper? I don't want the interior of the shell to be completely smooth..

Alex

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