I have no experience with these, but I've been curious to try them since mounting my 12" Rogers tom on a snare stand noticeably reduces tone and sustain. Maybe worth a shot?
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/tnr-products-little-booty-shakers
Hit it harder.
Here's a couple ideas for the pile:
1) rims mount but put it on the bottom head (upside down or right side up) on the player's side of the drum and mount it to the lower portion of your high hat stand. Sounds good and looks invisible.
2) use the upper (basket) portion of the snare stand but use a multi clamp to attach it to another stand so it does not ground straight to the floor- the stand will resonate more with the drum. Keeping the basket just tight enough that the drum doesn't fall out sounds good too.
Here's my suggestion, precisely what drumfx said..Looks great, less hardware,
more space, and your tom will resonate nicely..But i do agree with the fact that it may be
tuning, or maybe even bearing edge..
There are some "issues" that really amuse this old curmudgeon. This is one. I'll start by asking some questions. Is your "problem" causing a disruption of a recording session for a major label that has paid you a million dollar advance? Or, is the tom tom sound not up to your expectations for the gig you're playing at a club or a wedding reception? My intent for posting is not to trivialize something that you perceive as a real problem. Very simply put, the people sitting at a table in the club and the people on the dance floor at the wedding reception don't know how your rack tom sounds, nor do they care. If the tom sound is bothering a recording engineer, that engineer will "fix" it in the mix. Some people who obsess about this in countless previous threads have gotten in to real arguments over how to make their tom toms sound the way they think the drums should sound. Here's my suggestion.......Get some nylon fishing line. Loop the fishing line over a ceiling rafter. Firmly tie the fishing line to two tension rods just under the top hoop, and lower the drum to be suspended on the line to your preferred playing height. This way the tom will be free of any restriction that might choke its sound. On a serious note, you might think that the tom's sound is choked. If so, you will be the only one at the gig who has an opinion about the tom's sound, and nobody else will even have an opinion because they will not notice it. just play your drums, and enjoy playing.
I get the sentiment but I think you've taken it to the extreme. If I sit my 13" tom in the snare stand I use for my snare (a modern, heavier duty number) it's dead. Loses a good chunk of the mids and lows, sustain probably drops by half or more, tone is flat, volume is reduced. Sounds horrible. Had very similar results with all my drums; 40s Radio Kings, 80s Superstars and some modern tubs. Yes, maybe the majority of the audience won't notice it, but some may and I definitely will. If it didn't matter at all then we'd all play DXP or similar kits out and probably wouldn't be here on this forum.
Marko, I replaced the Clubdates with a 60's Sonor set (12, 16, 20). They sound great, and the 12" can be tuned the full range with consistent sustain. I have my 3-ply Slingy's for my American Made fix.
Cam............I will restate what I have said several times in threads like this. The manufacturers made the drum sets with factory-installed hardware for mounted toms. The drums were made to sound the way they were disigned to sound. Sometimes the original owner or the store that sold the drums installed the desired mounting hardware. The resulting basic voice of the tom was what it was, and remains as what it originally was. If you can't get it to sound the way you WANT it to sound, accept what you get or get rid of the offending drum or drum set. If you think my opinion on the matter is extreme, you're very welcome to think what you want to think of my opinion.
Yet Slingerland has an actual picture in their catalog with a..... Wait for it !!!??? A mounted tom on a snare stand !!!!
If you can't get it to sound the way you WANT it to sound, accept what you get or get rid of the offending drum or drum set.
Like Cam said, I get this sentiment as well. In the broadest sense, sure, if you can't get the drum to sound the way you want it, get another drum. But context plays an important role here, namely that the OP's tom doesn't sound the way he wants it to sound when mounted on a snare stand. Hence, the ask for ideas, which many have generously offered.
I agree with the OP...while I like the look of the high tom mounted on a snare stand, I didn't like the way it sounded. It's a great sounding tom otherwise, and its resonance was nearly non-existent in a snare basket. It sounded dead. Had it set up this way for a few days, then I reverted back to the original bass drum-mounted arm, which of course limits placement (and actually affects the bass drum sound, though not significantly).
It doesn't matter whether a recording engineer or audience at a gig noticed a difference, it was noticeable to the OP. And considering that I've experienced the drastic tonal difference between mounting my tom vs. sitting it in a snare basket, I don't consider wanting to let the drum breathe more as "obsessing." This is not the same thing as putting felt in lugs or using plastic washers...or hanging the drum from fishing line.
