It could be a UFIP stencil brand from the 40s - 50s.

thanks for the reply.

does that make the elton a brand name or a model?

do you have any documentation for these by any chance?

at anyt rate i am most thanbful to you for this bit of info.

it's more than i have found in, well, ever.

so you can see how much i appreciate this knowledge.

you rule!!!!

again, thanks so very much

Could be a start:

"Elton is an banjo accessories maker & wholesaler, founded in 1920s in NYC, still in business as of this writing. They stamped their name on the items they sold. They didn't make instruments, just parts." http://www.mugwumps.com/faq.htm

Maybe they stamped out a couple cymbals back in the day..

hey jim,

very interesting.....you really think they made some cymbal?

it is definitely a possibility.

i've got to post a pic of the stamp logo on it.

how odd that a banjo part maker would build cymbals too.

i've had a feeling they where made in the uk, i don't knowe why, but it's just a feeling.

truth be told, i have no way of knowing.

what do you think about the ufip theory? could they have made a elton model back once upon a time?

at any rate, i thank you very much for the good idea.

i truly appreciate your time and the info....

you da man.....

thanks again, i appreciate this very much all you great, and knowledgeable wise drum guys.

will post pics asap, i will have to wait till daylight, as my digi cam works much better with lots of daylight. the flash works, but it's hard to get good pics of details such as this.

again, i am very grateful to you all....

Here is one trademark "elton" in an oval shape on some banjo parts.. scroll through the pictures and you can see the mark on some of the parts and literature.

I can't find any reference to cymbals.. but clearly they made some metal stuff.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Elton-Banjo-Head-Guard-and-Pick-Holder-NO-RES_W0QQitemZ280288820395QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item280288820395&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Elton castanets.. same mark

http://cgi.ebay.com/PAIR-of-CASTANETS-BAKELITE-BLACK-PLASTIC-OLD_W0QQitemZ250314899056QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVintgae_Drums_Percussion?hash=item250314899056&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A8%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

yea, i think you may be on to something.

attached is a pic of the stamp on the cymbal.

it's taken under a florescent bulb, it's not too bad of a pic.

gives the general idea, and is pretty clear.

it does look very similar to those you at the links you posted.

what a shock if it is really made by a banjo parts maker.

i agree, it is clear they made metal parts.

my guess is there where not too many of these made.

also, it does sound surprisingly good, due to the small center hole, i don't use much, plus i love my istanbuls that are from the time before the split up. plus i have a set of sabians and a set of zildjians too. so i'm real happy with those.

i have been considering it as a part of a secondary hi-hat set. however it doesn't fit into a standard clutch. we'll see.

i do very much appreciate the info. i've learned more in one day, than i have in about a year of research.

looks like i could have saved myself some time by coming here first.

well, i know where i'm coming from now on, first and formost.

you're all great and wise, and i am very grateful to you all for your time and wisedom....,

whoo hoo....

all the goods to you fella's

again, thank you very, VERY much

Oh yeah... that's a match. Uhhh.. who would'da thunk it.

Elton appears to be a very well respected parts maker in the banjo world. My guess is they would not have put their mark on anything that was not of high quality..

Probably a very nice cymbal!! Hey if it sounds good, hit it!

hey jim,

you rule....

yeah really, who would have thought. i agree it is a match.

do you think it's a pretty rare cymbal? i mean i have been playing drums all my life, 36yrs, and have never heard of them before, or seen one ever, anywhere. i have however had this cymbal for a few yrs, but have not been able to find it's source. til now that is....thanks to you.

i can't thank you enough for you detective work....

that is so great. if they are still in business, i will write them to see when they made cymbals and maybe more about it. i also agree that they are quality, the cymbal speaks for itself. it's a very good one.

yes it does sound amazing good for a unknown.

if it sounds good hit it, that's great advise, and kinda funny too. i like your sense of humor.

well all my best to you, and know that i am grateful for your time and input. not to mention the fact that you figured this mystery out, way to go. you are the man, brilliant!!!!!

take care my friend, and thanks again jim.

it is very much appreciated. have a great thanksgiving, and holiday season.

all me best to you

I've seen one or two of these Elton cymbals before.

Most likely an old mid-level UFIP, '50s possibly, or even '60s. Elton Banjo Company didn't make them. Producing bronze cymbals requires considerable craftsmen and an established forge. They would've had them stencilled for them through UFIP or Paiste back in those days, and most likely UFIP.

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