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Posted on 9 years ago
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From mike809

Hi all, I'm new to the vintage drum world - I bought a vintage Ludwig kit off a friend for $100, and it appears to be a Ludwig Super Classic in champagne sparkle. The sizes are 13x9, 16x16, 22x18, with a 14x5 Ludwig Pioneer snare in champagne sparkle. My question is - based on the serial numbers on the badges, it appears half of the kit is from 1965 (bass and snare), and half from 1966 (the toms). Is this normal? Thanks!Mike

Didn't quite understand the question, Mike. I would guess that it's a factory matched set. Pictures would be nice. For $100 you did very well.

Posted on 9 years ago
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Mike the bass drum is more than likely a 14x22"

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Posted on 9 years ago
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From mike809

it appears half of the kit is from 1965 (bass and snare), and half from 1966 (the toms). Is this normal? Thanks!Mike

Mike,

First, welcome to the vintage community!

Regarding those serial numbers, don't forget... the serial numbers represent an approximate date of manufacture, not the date of sale. It's perfectly possible that someone ordered this set in 1966 and it arrived with a bass and snare manufactured in 1965.

We want pictures! We want pictures! We want pictures! We want pictures! We want pictures!Jumping2

Mike

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
Posted on 9 years ago
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Ok, you cannot be on this forum. $100 for all that luscious vintagy stuff? Incredible. Kidding, but yes photos!! I wouldn't worry to much about age, etc. That's the steal deal of the century.

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Welcome to the world of vintage drums.

Be careful about reading too much precision into the Ludwig serial number dating information available on the internet. It is generally thought that serial numbers were not issued in strict sequential order and were applied to shells (some of which were date stamped) which were also not used in strict date order. To date, manufacturers have not provided production records for when particular serial numbers were used. Therefore, any date estimate is just an approximation based upon serial numbers and date stamps which have been observed and recorded by people in the vintage drum community.

It is not uncommon for there to be some spread between the serial numbers within a set that was purchased together. The size of that spread might provide some insight into the origins of your set. There is much speculation about the reasons for the size of the spread of serial numbers. As you learn more about vintage drums, you will benefit from insight from others and then draw your own conclusions.

Look for date stamps on the interiors of your shells (they appear in a significant percentage of Ludwig drums made during this time period). Then provide your serial number/date stamp information when you post pictures of your set and people can offer their thoughts about how old your drums might be.

Rick

Collecting information about the following for ongoing research projects:
Gretsch drums with serial numbers,
Ludwig Keystone and B/O badge drums with serial numbers and date stamps,
Ludwig Standards from 1968-73, and
Ludwigs with paper labels from 1971-72
www.GretschDrumDatingGuide.com
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