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Q regarding older Ludwig Pioneer Snare

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Q re: Ludwig Pioneer snares from the 1930s (with the round badge). Would they have been equipped with single flange hoops and clips? Did Ludwig use regular hoops at that time, without clips?

Thanks

jim

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'68 Ludwig Mod Orange
'58 Gretsch Starlight Sparkle
'69 Ludwig Clubdate BDP
'60s Ludwig Clubdate Black Lacquer / Nickel
'67 Trixon Speedfire Red
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Posted on 12 years ago
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there were some double flange hoops that appear on some of the 30's Ludwig&Ludwig drums. all of the pioneer line that I see in catalogs in the 30's still had clips with hoops.

mike

Posted on 12 years ago
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As I look at the attached picture, it occurs to me that the strainer is likely from the 60s?, which means extra holes. I'm guessing that the hoops are also wrong? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks

jim

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'68 Ludwig Ruby Red Strata
'68 Ludwig Mod Orange
'58 Gretsch Starlight Sparkle
'69 Ludwig Clubdate BDP
'60s Ludwig Clubdate Black Lacquer / Nickel
'67 Trixon Speedfire Red
COB Ludwig Supra
Many projects
Bunch o snares
Posted on 12 years ago
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i'm not really up on this era. those hoops certainly appear to be from that ere. they very well may be correct. that pic of a strainer is the Ludwig block logo p83 from the late 60's/early 70's. I do know that some of the 40's drums were already using the p83s,unsure of the 30's though. if that drum had one, then the strainer would require no holes. depends on which strainer that drum would have come with.

mike

Posted on 12 years ago
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if that one pic that says broadway is of one of the hoops, that of course would be a leedy broadway hoop.

mike

Posted on 12 years ago
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I'm guessing that this is a mix bag of parts, since the badge is clearly pioneer, but one of the small images says Broadway (on a hoop?). I can buy it fairly cheap and will post a follow up if the purchase goes through.

Thanks

jim

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'68 Ludwig Ruby Red Strata
'68 Ludwig Mod Orange
'58 Gretsch Starlight Sparkle
'69 Ludwig Clubdate BDP
'60s Ludwig Clubdate Black Lacquer / Nickel
'67 Trixon Speedfire Red
COB Ludwig Supra
Many projects
Bunch o snares
Posted on 12 years ago
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Turns out that I have a couple sets of hoops that and at least a handful of clips. Might be an interesting drum.

Thanks

jim

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'68 Ludwig Ruby Red Strata
'68 Ludwig Mod Orange
'58 Gretsch Starlight Sparkle
'69 Ludwig Clubdate BDP
'60s Ludwig Clubdate Black Lacquer / Nickel
'67 Trixon Speedfire Red
COB Ludwig Supra
Many projects
Bunch o snares
Posted on 12 years ago
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Confession time.... Which one of you got in front of me and bought this from guitar center on toledo? No hard feelings... I forgot to call them first thing monday. Now sold $140.

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'68 Ludwig Ruby Red Strata
'68 Ludwig Mod Orange
'58 Gretsch Starlight Sparkle
'69 Ludwig Clubdate BDP
'60s Ludwig Clubdate Black Lacquer / Nickel
'67 Trixon Speedfire Red
COB Ludwig Supra
Many projects
Bunch o snares
Posted on 12 years ago
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ouch!

mike

Posted on 12 years ago
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