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Premier snare drum with snares on both heads

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I have been away from drumming since 1976. When I sold my Gretsch kit back then I was using a Premier 2000-something I think, not sure of the model. What I do remember was it had snares on both heads, One under the top head as well as the usual snares on the bottom head. I've told a few (non-drummers) that over the years and they look at me as if they don't really believe it.

I didn't like my Gretsch snare at the time and I traded it in along with a few dollars for the metal shelled Premier. It was around 1972 or maybe a bit later that I bought it I think. I remember I quite liked that drum.

DOH Yes - I should have never sold it, but at the time it was the right thing to do.

Does anyone remember that Premier drum?

Posted on 16 years ago
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Was the drum relatively new in 1972? If so, I doubt it had snares under both heads...they did have a parallel strainer system that had a bar going through the inside of the drum...that's what you may remember.

In the 1920s and '30s Ludwig and Ludwig had a "sensitive" option...a set of snares mounted under the top head...they made the "super sensitive", "standard sensitive" and the "new era" which had snares under the top head and on top of the bottom head.

Around that time, the English companies, like Premier, did similar things to their American counterparts...Premier may have done that then, so maybe that's what you had...a Premier from the 1920s or 1930s.

Posted on 16 years ago
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I would have to agree with Rich. The Premier Royal Ace had extended wires and a bar running through the snare.

Here is a Premier 2000 which also had extended wires.

Click Here

[IMG]http://www.puresoundpercussion.com/snare_applications/premier_2000_e2-1419/premier_2000_layout.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on 16 years ago
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BTW...in the early '30s, Leedy also had drums with snares under the top head...this is when they were owned by Conn as was Ludwig and Ludwig.

The English companies copied them as well...

Posted on 16 years ago
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The drum you had was probably a '2004' which was a concert (kit) snare listed in the Outfits brochures. The metal shelled '2004' first appeared in 1973 and was 14" x 6.5" with the Flobeam parallel action action strainer fitted with twin 12 wires as well as the internal upper strainer which pressed a set of 20 strand wires onto the underside of the batter head.

The '2004' changed to a wood shell in 1976 and was discontinued by 1978.

www.blenheimdrums.co.uk
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Posted on 16 years ago
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Was the drum relatively new in 1972? If so, I doubt it had snares under both heads...they did have a parallel strainer system that had a bar going through the inside of the drum...that's what you may remember.In the 1920s and '30s Ludwig and Ludwig had a "sensitive" option...a set of snares mounted under the top head...they made the "super sensitive", "standard sensitive" and the "new era" which had snares under the top head and on top of the bottom head.Around that time, the English companies, like Premier, did similar things to their American counterparts...Premier may have done that then, so maybe that's what you had...a Premier from the 1920s or 1930s.

The drum I had - you could activate snares under the top head (batter head)as well as the usual snares on the outside of the bottom (res. head). I didn't use the top head snares much - it seemed to choke the drum off. I guess in the right application (miked?) it might have worked. I played live and my drums weren't miked at all - unfortunatley.

Posted on 16 years ago
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The drum you had was probably a '2004' which was a concert (kit) snare listed in the Outfits brochures. The metal shelled '2004' first appeared in 1973 and was 14" x 6.5" with the Flobeam parallel action action strainer fitted with twin 12 wires as well as the internal upper strainer which pressed a set of 20 strand wires onto the underside of the batter head.The '2004' changed to a wood shell in 1976 and was discontinued by 1978.

Right on! 10-4! That was it!

I seemed to remember the name "2004" but I didn't think I had it right, but yes, that was it.

Is there a place I can look for anything to read further on that drum?

Thanks a bunch!

Posted on 16 years ago
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The drum you had was probably a '2004' which was a concert (kit) snare listed in the Outfits brochures. The metal shelled '2004' first appeared in 1973 and was 14" x 6.5" with the Flobeam parallel action action strainer fitted with twin 12 wires as well as the internal upper strainer which pressed a set of 20 strand wires onto the underside of the batter head.The '2004' changed to a wood shell in 1976 and was discontinued by 1978.

Wow, ya learn something new everyday! Thanks!

Posted on 16 years ago
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Right on! 10-4! That was it! I seemed to remember the name "2004" but I didn't think I had it right, but yes, that was it.Is there a place I can look for anything to read further on that drum?Thanks a bunch!

www.drumarchive.com

You can download the Premier 74/75 brochure here (page 11):

http://www.drumarchive.com/Premier/Premier_75.zip

and the 76/77 brochure here: (page 3):

http://www.realscenes.com/drumarchive/premiercatalogues/1976-7/1976-7accessories.zip

Check out the rest of the site for free, downloadable brochures from drum co's from all round the world. Please don't copy them like one little scamp did and tried to sell them on eBay, it's not why the free site was started.

www.blenheimdrums.co.uk
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Posted on 16 years ago
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www.drumarchive.comYou can download the Premier 74/75 brochure here (page 11):http://www.drumarchive.com/Premier/Premier_75.zipand the 76/77 brochure here: (page 3):http://www.realscenes.com/drumarchive/premiercatalogues/1976-7/1976-7accessories.zipCheck out the rest of the site for free, downloadable brochures from drum co's from all round the world. Please don't copy them like one little scamp did and tried to sell them on eBay, it's not why the free site was started.

Thanks again. It's great looking through the old catalogues.

Posted on 16 years ago
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