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Hi-ya folks!!

My premier resonator bass drum tom mount is cracked, and needs replacing. Anyone know how to access the inner fixings to undo them and get it out?? 1975 ish silver sun? Also!! while I'm on!! Can all the snare and tom hoop flat screw head fixings be replaced with standard square types? I've found also that the snare screws have bottomed out while I was attempting a high tension for a marching band gig. Are there longer square head fixings out there somewhere??

Cheers folks.......

Posted on 11 years ago
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PRETTY sure you can just throw reg t-rods in there..you can on the Elites..

I love the SS finish!Bowing Have a snare in that...wanting a whole set..

There is a whole SS Reso kit on eBay UK right now...400 Quid start..

Shipping would kill to US though.....Sailing2

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 11 years ago
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"...premier resonator bass drum tom mount is cracked, and needs replacing. Anyone know how to access the inner fixings to undo them and get it out??"

Yes...but it is a very delicate operation.

Each drum has a round thin veneer inserted between the outer shell and the flat inner edges of the top and bottom reinforcement rings to produce the "resonator chamber", which is in fact an inner compartment of air which resonates.

The thin veneer inner ply is held perfectly in place by its opposite ends meeting each other and generating just enough resistance so that the inner ply "snaps" into place, forming a perfectly circular inner wall!

To access the internal nuts and washers which attach the castings:

1)Remove top and bottom heads and visually identify the "seam" inside the drum's inner shell where the two opposite ends of the inner wooden ply meet.

2) With an extremely thin but strong tool (like a butter knife), gently and with extreme caution wedge the blade tool into the seam to separate the joint.

3) The inner ply will then "pop" loose - this extremely delicate one ply veneer of wood must then be carefully removed and set aside in a safe place where it can not be stepped on or damaged.

4) The internal fasteners are then readily accessible for you to remove and make repairs.

To reinsert the inner ply you simply reverse the above process:

5) Manually reinsert the circular ply into each drum, carefully maneuvering it back into place, until a perfect circle is formed and the two opposite ends meet and slightly overlap.

6) Using the edged blade tool delicately pry the two ends apart until the ply "snaps" all by itself back into its former shape and position forming a virtually "seamless" inner ply shell wall.

Now you know why the line was discontinued - in spite of it being one of the best sounding kits ever made.

Good luck!

Posted on 11 years ago
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There is some info on Resonator inserts here:

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=20965&highlight=resonator+inserts

hope it helps!

1964 Ludwig Champagne Super Classic
1970 Ludwig Blue Oyster Super Classic
1977 Rogers Big R Londoner 5 ebony
1972/1978 Rogers Powertone/Big R mix ebony
60's Ludwig Supersensitive
Pearl B4514 COB snare ( the SC snare)
Pearl Firecracker
PJL WMP maple snare
Odds & Sods

Sabians, Paistes, Zildjians, Zyns, UFIPs, MIJs etc
Item may be subject to change!
Posted on 11 years ago
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Jeez Buckie_B! How did you write all that while I was doing a search on resonators? I'll have to improve my typing skills!

1964 Ludwig Champagne Super Classic
1970 Ludwig Blue Oyster Super Classic
1977 Rogers Big R Londoner 5 ebony
1972/1978 Rogers Powertone/Big R mix ebony
60's Ludwig Supersensitive
Pearl B4514 COB snare ( the SC snare)
Pearl Firecracker
PJL WMP maple snare
Odds & Sods

Sabians, Paistes, Zildjians, Zyns, UFIPs, MIJs etc
Item may be subject to change!
Posted on 11 years ago
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Here's instructions on how to remove and replace the liners.

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showpost.php?p=244686&postcount=9

Posted on 11 years ago
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Yep, the right way to do it - and very much easier than it seems.

Once you have played a little with the veneer and found out how handle the "double-bend", it is quite easy to place the piece(s) in the shell, line everything up - and the press on the bulge, making it find its place.

And then you have done it!

Jon

Posted on 11 years ago
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fantastic Guys!!

Thanks a lot for that. Brilliant response.

I'm confident of having a go at that once I've bought a replacement holder.

I always thought my kit had a silver sun finish, but it looks like it might be silver star?? by looking at other kits.

By the way... the above mentioned kit (by Blairndrums)on e-bay starting at £400, is actually just around the corner from me, and I watched the owner playing a session in the middle of town on a Saturday afternoon last month. I had to take stock of the situation. It's not everyday that you see your identical kit from mid 1970's being played by a young man in the middle of the high street...........(actually this kit has had a 14" tom added, looks great, and sounded superb).

Posted on 11 years ago
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You may find that the bass liner is in 2 pieces with the top piece held in place by the tom holder

Posted on 11 years ago
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