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Premier Problem child kit

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This is an interesting one. I got it for all of $120. Here are the specs: beavertail-like lugs (with the characteristic washers that Premier lugs have), retractable kick drum legs, dark wood with lighter wood re-rings, and an elliptical tom bracket on the kick drum. The snare has the double-ended shark-tooth lugs and flat-head tension rods. No snare strainer or snare-side rim. Batter ring seems to be die-cast, as it's quite heavy.

But she's a bit of a basket case: plugged (with dried-out wood putty) holes for reso-side lugs (and therefore no reso-side lugs), no floor tom leg brackets, the rack tom brackets are cream crackers, the re-rings on the 13 and 14" rack toms need to be re-glued, and the bearing edges need attention. The floor tom and the kick are pretty solid, especially since the kick always had it's reso head on. He did have the original flat-based stands, but they were pretty poor.

Also, this rocket scientist painted the original pearl finish (looked like WMP) black with a rattle bomb. That wrap is gone. Weird, weird muffling methods were employed- everything from thermal underwear sleeve cuffs to G'd knows what else. The original Premier snare was taped under the batter head of the snare. There was a crudely crafted, high-pitched cowbell hanging off of a tension rod on one of the rack toms.

My plans: use the rack and the kick, flog the snare, and possibly flog the rack toms. I will keep the lugs, though will look for a set of ten hi-tension lugs for the kick (as the hole spacing is identical for using the one-piece lugs).

Tell me what you think I have. How do I post pics on this forum? Would there be any point in trying to flog the orphan rack toms in light of them needing such TLC? Should I try to fix them?

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Premier (child kit?) with beavertail (like) lugs? Flog the toms? Cream crackers?

You'd better post pictures.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From JRichard

Premier (child kit?) with beavertail (like) lugs? Flog the toms? Cream crackers?You'd better post pictures.

The lugs are just not as characteristically identifiable like most Premier stuff. But they are definitely Premier.

Cream Crackers means knackered or destroyed.

I call it a problem child kit as she had suffered a major amount of abuse.

Yes, rather than try to find these lugs, I would rather flog (or sell) the toms. Funniest thing is that with the exception of the floor tom, the drilling pattern lines right up with the one-piece lugs on everything.

How do I post pics on this forum? I have had terrible luck trying to do so.

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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Here are some anecdotes from both the Craig's list ad and conversations with the PO's son:

"Great condition considering their age..." okay- they're beat to hell. I have seen 30 year old kits in much better shape. I think they are older than 30 years old, myself.

"All concert toms, including the snare..." he must have sold the strainer and bottom lugs from the other toms to pay for a drug habit. Premier snare was taped inside the snare drum.

"The Ludwig hi-hat is worth a bunch of money..." yeah, right. It's all apart and probably non-operational. It's also not that old.

"You'd pay $600 for all these things if you bought them separately..." yeah, if everything was in better shape. I was not going to fall for the vintage Roto toms, especially since the rail was bent and I was going to get a bunch of trashed hardware if I would have bought the lot for $250.

I don't think I made a mistake, especially since I am looking for a floor tom to re-wrap. The hardware alone to rebuild some of my kit would have cost me a fair bit. I am going to practise re-gluing the re-rings on the toms.

Could someone tell me how to post pics on here using my Mac?

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Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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Pics upload:

enter the above words or similar ones (free upload picture etc.) at google and you should find results. Perhaps 'ImageShack' is such an option also in the US?

In every case you need to sign in for a (free) account and make a link at your next post here to that pic in your account.

Uploading pics directly here is nearly impossible, as you have to reduce the size of your pic to a minimum which makes it difficult to recognize details on the pic afterwards.

Ralf

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 13 years ago
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From bunnyman

Could someone tell me how to post pics on here using my Mac?

When you are ready to upload from files, once you are in the posting thread, you scroll down to the next box that reads "Manage Attachments" Click that button and you then be prompted to choose a file and then click upload button. If the file is too large, you will have to re-size it. If you don't know how to do it, just google picture resize and you will get a stack of free online apps that will do it for you.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I will try that. I am just not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to computer stuff.

Update: I took out the putty in the holes, lightly sanded down the bearing edges, then mounted up heads and the floor tom sounds AMAZING. Tuned up really, really easy, as well. G2 coated batter and Genera reso for the heads. I even put the batter on the reso side ('cos I am trying to mount it like a rack tom off of a cymbal stand- this FT is missing it's leg mounts). I haven't decided what to do with covering, yet.

Now I really, really want to fix the re-rings on the other drums and try to find lugs for them. The Apollo floor tom will have a home in another kit.

When I get a few more minutes, pics for all of these things will come.

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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Posted on 13 years ago
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From MIKEY777

What Photo's they are not working..I more than likey have the lugs...Mikey

Read this blogpost:

http://randomdougstuff.blogspot.com/2011/05/identify-this-model-of-premier-lug.html

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Posted on 13 years ago
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