How about serial numbers? wasn't there some sort of law that instruments had to have a serial number in the mid 60's? seemed like everyone started serializing about that time.
Floyd, did you're set have a number on the badge? Mine has no serial number which by other sites indicates mid-sixties.
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No serial number on the snare, just a date stamp inside.
Andrew, is that aluminum too? If so I guess they weren't phasing out the cosmic shell after all (in mid 70s as I supposed above).I had my set almost 3 years and kept a keen eye out for others like it during that period. Having seen several I can confirm that is the factory snare for a 6000/65000 Powerhouse etc outfit.There were no conclusive catalogue shots that I ever found. My conclusion came from seeing several 6000/6500 sets on ebay etc, all with this exact snare. As I recall, the catalogue shots don't show the snare very clearly. But yeah, not a drip of speculation here, that's is what it is.
That would make sense. I'm just being thrown by the badge. I find it pretty difficult to identify Premier snares. Just yesterday this was listed on ebay and I was convinced it was the 6.5" version of my 35, which is called the 36. Before I pulled the trigger I thought I'd ask the seller if a magnet sticks to the shell and it does, so steel. So I'm confused, again.
And yes, my 35 is aluminium (complete with light pitting). I use it all the time as it's permanently set up in the studio. Great drum and bought for under $100 on this forum, or the other one, can't remember.
I guess they aren't as rare as you'd like.
Oh well, as long as they sound good ..... :rolleyes:
I guess they aren't as rare as you'd like. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Premier-5x14-Seamless-Metal-Shell-Snare-Drum-ca-1960s-70s-Exc-74-95-/380746131467?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58a63ce80b&nma=true&si=UVUrXSdm3zfdxzon58V%252F6jWnFKI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557#ht_954wt_902Oh well, as long as they sound good ..... :rolleyes:
Well there you go. Looks like the small badge was used much later. Being Premier they are a bit undervalued but are excellent drums. I'm sure it'll sound great.
FayRay - the Beaded 6½" snare you linked to and that turned out to be steel is a 1036.
They differ in looks from the Aluminium 36 by the lugs - Olympic/Club lugs on the 1036, "Pointy" standard Premier lugs on the 36.
You can find lots of Premier catalogues on drumarchive.com.
They won´t tell you all, the older catalogues just tells you they are "metal"....
Krash, your snare is an american model, the snare that came with the 6000/6500 kits as mentioned below. It is with 99,9% probability aluminium - a 8 lugs version of the Beverley 21, with Premier lugs.
If you search this forum, you will the picture form an american catalogue with one - this model has been discussed not too long ago.
The 6000/6500 was later sold in Europe too as Premier Projectors - but not with an 8 lugger like yours. They were US only.
Yes, Ludwig alu-snares pit a lot more than Premiers - Premier quite simply did a better chrome. You will find lots of Premiers, typically 2000´s, form the early seventies with perfect chrome.
Enjoy yours - it is a great sounding snare, and not too common worldwide.
Regards
Jon
