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Premier 1970's Telescoping spurs

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My son is looking at a set of Premier's from the mid '70s. Its a 13/16/22 set with what looks like a 4"x 14 chrome snare with the internal mechanism that maintains snare tension when the snares are off the head. ( I used to have a slightly deeper version of that snare in the early-mid '60s) The other shells seem to be mahogany with very thick reinforcement rings at the bearing edges.

The only thing that appears to be missing is one of the spur rods. I don't have a picture of it, but to lengthen or shorten the rods, there is a tab which must be depressed on the spur bracket. Assuming what I'm asking about is clear enough, does anyone have any idea if such a replacement spur rod can be found? The spur brackets are intact and working, but there is only one rod. I suppose i could get another steel rod of similar diameter somewhere, but the bracket probably has a metric sized hole so this might be an issue.

A finsl question. Since these spurs go straight out to the sides, as most vintage spurs did back then, bass drum creep could be an issue. Many years ago I had a small clamp with two rubber feet, and which reversed to two spikes, which was intended to be attached to the front hoop to prevent forward creep. Anything like that still exist?

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 11 years ago
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While not entirely correct, I replaced my Premier spurs that were literally disappearing spurs with a couple of pieces of stainless steel. They work fine and they are imperial as opposed to metric. I don't recall what size however.

Bass drum anchors are still available:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/drums-percussion/gibraltar-bass-drum-anchor

The one you are thinking of was manufactures by Walberg and Auge. You can find those used every now and again.

tnsquint
Very proud owner of a new Blaemire Snare 6.5 x 14 made by Jerry Jenkins "Drumjinx"
Posted on 11 years ago
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From tnsquint

While not entirely correct, I replaced my Premier spurs that were literally disappearing spurs with a couple of pieces of stainless steel. They work fine and they are imperial as opposed to metric. I don't recall what size however. Bass drum anchors are still available:http://www.musiciansfriend.com/drums-percussion/gibraltar-bass-drum-anchorThe one you are thinking of was manufactures by Walberg and Auge. You can find those used every now and again.

Thanks. The Gibraltar anchor looks very similar to the one I had in the '60's-70's Where did you find these stainless steel rods? This set is is very good condition with little wear. I think the finish may be referred to as Grey Shimmer, based on what I saw in the catalogs here. It has a telescoping ride cymbal mount and rod, and none of the lugs or hardware seems scratched or pitted in any way. The finish on the snare looks almost like new. The snare and tom hoops are double flanged with a very thick stick protecting edge like you would see on cast hoops. The wrap is in excellent shape. It looks like the set spent the last 35-40 years in someone's basement.

Do you know if Premier had different levels of quality for their shells and mounting hardware under the Premier brand in the '70s? This set has the traditional one piece Premier lugs on the bass drum and small tom. I don't recall if there are one piece lugs or not on the floor tom. Since the snare is only 4" deep, the single piece lugs are offset. This 4 piece set is going for $499 USD. It had been previously offered for $1000, but it didn't sell at that price and the owner wants to get rid of it.

Any additional advice would be appreciated.

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 11 years ago
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Bos,

I have a nice pair of 70's Prem BD spurs..$30 plus ship..don't want to split them up...

They only offered top of the range stuff in the 70's under the Prem banner....

Better grab for $500! Snare is worth 1/2 that alone!

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 11 years ago
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From blairndrums

Bos,I have a nice pair of 70's Prem BD spurs..$30 plus ship..don't want to split them up...They only offered top of the range stuff in the 70's under the Prem banner....Better grab for $500! Snare is worth 1/2 that alone!

Might be interested in the spurs if Dan buys them. In that event, a photo of them would be nice, but don't go to any trouble since he hasn't made up his mind yet.

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 11 years ago
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Hi there,

Please, grab that set, Sir!

If the set is in this nearly perfect condition, I'd recommend to keep the spurs genuine, too. You may find one (or two) spurs at ebay UK, coming up monthly.

But attention: obviously there were two different lengths of spurs on the market at that time (looking the same, with that spike on one side). Assure that the one you're going to buy has the correct length (I first bought a pair which were too short and didn't reach the ground at all)!

Ralf

(NB: no - the first spurs had no traces of any treatment at the other end, which could have been the reason for being too short.)

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 11 years ago
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From Ralf

Hi there,Please, grab that set, Sir!If the set is in this nearly perfect condition, I'd recommend to keep the spurs genuine, too. You may find one (or two) spurs at ebay UK, coming up monthly.But attention: obviously there were two different lengths of spurs on the market at that time (looking the same, with that spike on one side). Assure that the one you're going to buy has the correct length (I first bought a pair which were too short and didn't reach the ground at all)!Ralf(NB: no - the first spurs had no traces of any treatment at the other end, which could have been the reason for being too short.)

Thanks. Not sure its nearly perfect, but its in very good condition. I'm pretty sure these are of the shorter variety. Most of the pictures in the '70s catalogs look much longer. Do you still have the short ones?

Mark
BosLover
Posted on 11 years ago
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Yes,they did 2 sizes..short for up to a 20", then longer ones for 22" and + sizes.

I think I have 2 sets..1 of each size..have to check though...

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 11 years ago
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Hi and welcome to the Premier Owners Club!

Please post some pictures - then we can help you evaluating how complete and original the kit is.

As stated above, Premier from that period only came in one quality - top quality.

And we are quite many that prefers shells from the mahogany-period of the late sixties to mid-seventies.

You won´t get it much better than those, if you like a nice warm sound. Also, Premier spare parts are plnetiful and cheap - at least in the UK. Ebay.uk os brilliant for sourcing parts.

Regards

Jon

Posted on 11 years ago
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To answer BosLover's question: no, I was lucky to send them back to the UK-seller and receive a new pair without being charged again, now fitting.

Oh, just btw: If anyone here has a pair of the original rubber feet for those spurs (looking a little bit like black olives), pls. give me a note.

Ralf

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 11 years ago
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