I had a couple of Paiste Ludwigs, at one time and they seemed similar to Paiste Stambuls, which were a lower grade of cymbal to the Stanople. All Paistes were made from sheet material in those days but whether they had access to different grades of sheet nickel silver , I don't know. It does seem that Meinl and Paiste had some sort of cooperation going on because there are Swiss Dynastars and German Dynastars and then Swiss Supers and German Supers. Some of the Supers were yellowish, as though they had more of a Bronze or Brass base and some were quite silvery as though they had a Nickel Silver base. I have 2 Nickel Silver Supers(18 and 12) that I use as a lightweight duo , bass mounted, on a little compact , sort of jazz kit and they are really good cymbals, not great but certainly adequate. The 20" Bronze coloured Super that came with them is a deadbeat.I think they misspelled it. It should be Stupor. There are 4 companies, known to me ,that used Nickel Silver as a base material for cymbals Premier(Zyn,,2 Star zyn,,Krut and Beverley brands), Boosey & Hawkes( Ajax, Gordon brands), Paiste(Stambul,Stanople,Dynastar Superior,Super,Ludwig Standard,Sonor---others, I think) and Meinl(Trixon Silber,Roxy, Meteor,Sonor, others) and they are mostly ,markedly different, in many ways. There appear to have been a number of different alloys and different mfg. techniques and some of these cymbals are truly quite fine, while others are verging on dreadfull. The Stanoples can be very good, as can some Zyns,Supers and Ajax's.