Sound Formula. Same alloy as the Signature series. OUTSTANDING cymbals. Vintage? No. This one is one of the smoother ones. I honestly didn't like the smooth ones. I liked the more natural ones with the deeper lathing. I've owned lots and lots and lots and lots of them. Best crashes I've ever ever ever ever ever ever played. Unreal.

You didn't like the smooth ones as much but do they sound good for $70.00 O.B.O. or is that an average price?

It's like the Brilliant finish on the Zildjians or Sabians. It smooths and focuses the sounds too much for me. Just never liked that. Is it worth the dough? Absolutely!...if it's in good condition. It's the Signature alloy. Those things are expensive.

Thanks for the advice, I will offer $50.00 if it is still available.

Why would you offer 50? It's worth the asking 70...and then some. It's a very nice quality cymbal...assuming condition is good.

Yeah it's worth the $70 but I always make an offer too. $50 is probably a good place to start.

I've played this cymbal on many occasions. A very good general purpose ride, nice and glassy and bright, good clear ping and shimmery wash which is so typical of the SF/Sig alloy. I've seen used ones just like it for well over $100 so it's a bargain for sure assuming the condition is good.

The add said O.B.O. so usually as soon as I see that I know they are not completely firm and maybe $50.00 is or will be their best offer. It's worth a shot.:D