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From Butterbone

Well the "stuff" has to be authentic. That is where much of the value is.I'll clean these up, probably cut the depth in half, or just behind the cleets. Cut and glue in shoes to mount a reflective batton back to which the LED bulbs will be mounting so that the owner doesn't have to undo the drum lugs to change a bulb. Add a third drum and mount them on top of each other cantelevered with the largest on bottom and the middle offset.Buy or make new heads for the front that give the right amount of light pass through. And then mount all of that on a finished hardwood base. If you just hot glue together 3 chinese drums and shove a lightbulb inside it then you should probably be able to sell it for $30.As far as destroying vintage items...well...these drums were rotting in a shed. I'm not convinced they can be saved as drums. But since the badges are still visible then they can at least be sold as authentic period pieces of mass manufacturing.It's not a Picasso. It's a mass produced product that just barely survived long enough to be re-purposed. I think it's great that it hasn't ended up in a landfill.I appreciate all the information.I think that taking the time to find the right buyer for the vintage drum is going to be longer and more tedious than finding someone who will appreciate a cleverly composed lighting accent with a musical theme.

Bad bad bad idea. You ask the experts for advice here them turn them into lamps? Whatev! :) Tedious to sell them as is? Just put em on ebay and wait. If you get $350 for a lamp I'd be in serious shock.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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From Butterbone

Well the "stuff" has to be authentic. That is where much of the value is.I'll clean these up, probably cut the depth in half, or just behind the cleets. Cut and glue in shoes to mount a reflective batton back to which the LED bulbs will be mounting so that the owner doesn't have to undo the drum lugs to change a bulb. Add a third drum and mount them on top of each other cantelevered with the largest on bottom and the middle offset.Buy or make new heads for the front that give the right amount of light pass through. And then mount all of that on a finished hardwood base. If you just hot glue together 3 chinese drums and shove a lightbulb inside it then you should probably be able to sell it for $30.As far as destroying vintage items...well...these drums were rotting in a shed. I'm not convinced they can be saved as drums. But since the badges are still visible then they can at least be sold as authentic period pieces of mass manufacturing.It's not a Picasso. It's a mass produced product that just barely survived long enough to be re-purposed. I think it's great that it hasn't ended up in a landfill.I appreciate all the information.I think that taking the time to find the right buyer for the vintage drum is going to be longer and more tedious than finding someone who will appreciate a cleverly composed lighting accent with a musical theme.

Finding a buyer for that Ludwig tom won't take nearly as long as you think it will.Once you alter the drum by drilling holes,you'll devalue it by as much as 35-50%.Vintage drums,must be in original,unaltered condition to bring the highest resale value,authentic or not.

Sell the Ludwig tom to a drummer or collector,who will appreciate it.

A Club Date is the model,or line of that particular drum.That one measurers 9x13,not 10x14.Drums are measured from bearing edge to bearing edge,without the rims.

If you want to build light fixtures,use cheap imported drum shells,not vintage American made shells.Drummers will take a dim view of a vintage dum,that's intact,being sold as a light fixture.If a drum is being repurposed,,it should be played,and not hung from a ceiling.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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AirborneSFC already said he would buy it.

Posted on 11 years ago
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I won't be apart of this...

I don't see how helping this butterGuy is helping our community..?

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Butterbone-this is abit of a torture to us vintage drum guys here and it`s hard to even reply to your questions but please leave the Luddy alone and sell it to someone who will appreciate it much more than your alternative.To you it may have been rotting away in some shed but to someone else-it`s golden and repairable.

wayne

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Posted on 11 years ago
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From Wayne Brown

Butterbone-this is abit of a torture to us vintage drum guys here and it`s hard to even reply to your questions but please leave the Luddy alone and sell it to someone who will appreciate it much more than your alternative.To you it may have been rotting away in some shed but to someone else-it`s golden and repairable.wayne

Amen brother.

I once stopped a couple of bored music store employees who were about to mount a bass drum on the roof of the store. Large drill bits, big screws. Offered them $50 and took it home. Got it re-laquered and played that kick on sessions for about 10 years - every engineer loved it and I still have it.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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I haven't re-measured the Ludwig. I'll do that tonight.

Is there any other way to verify the Ludwigs "club date" status? Is it just the measurement?

To be honest I was helping to choose antique violins for my buddy so he can cut the necks out of them to make a coat rack. The 4 violins we took from my pile are all at least 100 years old and really lovely. But each one would need $200 worth of repairs to be played. So the necks and heads are easy to take off, remount and boom. Super cool coat rack. I'm only ****ed he thought of it before I did.

I apologized in the first post and understand your "passion". I didn't want to irritate anyone though it happens. But I've done it before and I'll do it again.

As musicians you should understand the idea of emotional integrity. You can play a song on it's technical merits and do it correctly, but a technical execution will never sound as good as music played by someone who really feels it and is expressing their own journey through the part of the song they are playing.

Same thing with a found object sculpture. The realization by someone that a sacrifice of one object has been made in order to create another object is where the integrity comes into play. The authenticity of the object to be sacrificed is critical to that. The greater the sacrifice the greater the impact.

And Tamadrm's suggestion of making cheaper lighting by using cheaper drums isn't terrible because then I can make more of them instead of selling a one off.

The problem with that is that there is no integrity to just making a cheap lamp with a hook. That's just production and fabrication.

My overall goal is to create found object art that also serves a purpose. So a scultpure made of drums, that is also a light.

But I'll measure it again and if it is a "club date" then I'll throw it up on ebay and see if it sells.

Posted on 11 years ago
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The Ludwig is 8x11.

The Drum Mate is 8x11.5 and I measured it multiple times from both side when I got 11.5.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Must be a 8"x12". I'll buy it to save it. I actually need it. Pm me.

Posted on 11 years ago
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I have no interest in buying either drum or any of your century+ old violins. But, a musical instrument enthusiast forum is a very inappropriate place to pose your questions and comments about butchering items that are sacred to many of us. You may not have any similar passion for items that we have for musical instruments. But, let's say that you love antique juke boxes. You might be upset by people who gut the Seeburg bubbler cabinet to make a display case for a beer can collection.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 11 years ago
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