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From crash

Running my RK's w/RIMS and a snare stand to avoid drilling them. Not really sure why, they've been modded already. Bass is a 22", cut down from a bigger one by the Pro Drum shop.I guess it's because the toms are unmodified, and I'd prefer not to do it. I like the lacquer. It's flaking, but just leaving well enough alone. Wish it would get really bad, so I could justify staining and finishing them![IMG]http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad173/wdonley/abb0285e-8093-41f4-93a3-75430e56dbc3.jpg[/IMG]

Man, that's an absolute wicked cool finish, and one day it may be the last one like it...

Posted on 11 years ago
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OK, here's what I don't understand, and this applies to cars, drums, whatever... Suppose you came across a vintage (antique) NOB snare that has been meticulously maintained since day one. Maybe it's been in the same family since new, it has been occasionally polished and rarely used. In other words, it still looks like new. Is that drum worth less than a similar drum that although neglected in the past has now been cleaned and polished to "restore" it to like new condition? They look the same; only the provenance is different.

To put it in personal terms, I polished my new 1963 Ludwig Hollywood kit and Supra the day I brought them home in 1963. Every couple of years I go over the kit cleaning off finger prints, dust, etc. The drums have always been in hard cases and, by most standards, are lightly used. The only "patina" they have is a few light scratches on the lugs from the cases. So, is my kit less valuable than the same kit with faded wrap and rusty lugs?

Posted on 11 years ago
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From Creighton

With my RK's I'm striving for a factory/period correct restoration. The shells survived the best forgotten period of trash the bottom hardware and paint everything black. Quite a bit of time, effort and expense but they are returning to day one new.They will never be collector grade. That was lost many years ago. I like them because of the modifications that have taken place over the years. True players kit. Here is one of the 13" toms.Upgraded many times to the latest hardware. Would have been easier to get a new drum. Much joy in trying to sort what prior owner's were thinking. Creighton

It looks like the Texas Mag Drill Massacre...But as long as it sounds great I guess it wouldn't matter. For my Camcos, I went back to the drawing board, discarded the shells that had any aftermarket holes or modified bearing edges. Only because it bothered me personally...

Posted on 11 years ago
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From GG Vintage

OK, here's what I don't understand, and this applies to cars, drums, whatever... Suppose you came across a vintage (antique) NOB snare that has been meticulously maintained since day one. Maybe it's been in the same family since new, it has been occasionally polished and rarely used. In other words, it still looks like new. Is that drum worth less than a similar drum that although neglected in the past has now been cleaned and polished to "restore" it to like new condition? They look the same; only the provenance is different.To put it in personal terms, I polished my new 1963 Ludwig Hollywood kit and Supra the day I brought them home in 1963. Every couple of years I go over the kit cleaning off finger prints, dust, etc. The drums have always been in hard cases and, by most standards, are lightly used. The only "patina" they have is a few light scratches on the lugs from the cases. So, is my kit less valuable than the same kit with faded wrap and rusty lugs?

In this particular case, your kit would be considered a time capsule and be at the high end of the price scale. It does bring up the interesting question posed earlier. I am not a huge believer in the "old patina" being a great thing anymore than I would be impressed by a nasty antique car. The value, one way or another, will still be in the estimation of a particular buyer. I personnaly prefer items to be as close to factory fresh as possible. That does not necessarily mean replacing wrap but I am not a fan of overly faded or cracked wraps. I have an Aquamarine sparkle Premier kit from the early 70's The snare exhibits no fade or liver spots. The two toms exhibit very little fade. The bass drum has a bit of fade on top and the lower stage left side is cracked. I am OCD enough that the crack and fade bother me a lot. I am also OCD enough to know if I re wrapped the kick, any particular mis-match between the kick and the rest of the kit would bother me. It would be a shame to re-wrap the entire kit so, in my case, I'll most likely leave it be.

I doubt that there are truly definitive answers to the original question. A pristine example of a piece from antiquity will generally command the highest dollar. Whether that piece is presented that way due to meticulous care over it's history or due to a thoughtful and detailed restoration is certainly a dilemma.

tnsquint
Very proud owner of a new Blaemire Snare 6.5 x 14 made by Jerry Jenkins "Drumjinx"
Posted on 11 years ago
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From GG Vintage

OK, here's what I don't understand, and this applies to cars, drums, whatever... Suppose you came across a vintage (antique) NOB snare that has been meticulously maintained since day one. Maybe it's been in the same family since new, it has been occasionally polished and rarely used. In other words, it still looks like new. Is that drum worth less than a similar drum that although neglected in the past has now been cleaned and polished to "restore" it to like new condition? They look the same; only the provenance is different.To put it in personal terms, I polished my new 1963 Ludwig Hollywood kit and Supra the day I brought them home in 1963. Every couple of years I go over the kit cleaning off finger prints, dust, etc. The drums have always been in hard cases and, by most standards, are lightly used. The only "patina" they have is a few light scratches on the lugs from the cases. So, is my kit less valuable than the same kit with faded wrap and rusty lugs?

I have the same question...I don't really know...It seems to me your 63 Ludwigs would be considered museum grade, even if they were played on a daily basis...Having this warm, mostly dry climate of Nor-Cal surely helps when it comes to aging without rust or even pitting..

Posted on 11 years ago
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