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Hello I bought recently an old yamaha set propably from 70s. and i wonder what model, kind it is??? I added also photo with 2 toms from the same set. maybe this also help.

Posted on 13 years ago
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What does that writeing say on the inside of the snare ?

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 13 years ago
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Good eye:) but thats nothing that will help identify those drums -> its just name and adress previous owner(i guess) of this snare. other shells also have that signature.

on other side maybe they were so precious that he signed them to prevent from being stolen, and that is another reason why i need to identify this beautiful snare:)

Posted on 13 years ago
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Nice late 60s/early 70s Yamahas.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Very clean! Late 60s early 70s kit. Is the bass a Star? It looks to have Star T-rods. This color is called Blue Willow, or there was also another name for it, Blue Thunder? This is era specific as to the actual name of the wrap color, but it is in this timeframe. These are in excellent condition from the photos, but you need to put some feet on the floor tom. Pearl free floaters are the best for these old wood types, it increases their resonance. What sizes are they? That would also help in determining what "model" the kit is. What is stamped on the badges?

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Actually bass drum is '66 Drum Mate(TAMA) made in Japan. It sounds AMAZING!!! For 20' its loud and has this jazzy warm sound. I cant imaging what will it sound when i put new wood hoops and mount good stable legs.

and i finally identified those yamahas:) they are C200 toms and snare. but i thought that snare size is 14x5,5 but yamaha catalogue says that they were by 5' deep. i only wonder what kind of wood are they made from because in catalogue i couldnt find it

Posted on 13 years ago
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sizes are 12/8 and 14/14 toms. bass is 20/14

Posted on 13 years ago
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Hi.

I have the same set but red (without snare).

Really nice drums.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From piotrekk

Actually bass drum is '66 Drum Mate(TAMA) made in Japan. It sounds AMAZING!!! For 20' its loud and has this jazzy warm sound. I cant imaging what will it sound when i put new wood hoops and mount good stable legs.and i finally identified those yamahas:) they are C200 toms and snare. but i thought that snare size is 14x5,5 but yamaha catalogue says that they were by 5' deep. i only wonder what kind of wood are they made from because in catalogue i couldnt find it

Yamaha used Asian mahogany (lauan), birch and maple in the early days, so it is likely, in the C200 of the very early days, that they are the mahogany version. Yours appears to have the birch shells. Nice, solid drums.

Drum Mate was actually built by Star, before TAMA came into existence. It was Star's "entry level", least expensive line with some lower end parts, such as some of the lugs. They did not offer much in the way of options, limited wraps, etc. Many were not even real lugs, more of a pass through, single tension "guides". The "lug" is merely a bent piece of metal strap. This is not to say all of the lugs on Drum Mates' where this style, but on the very cheapest they built, and the junior kits had this style of tension rods.

Is your bass a 3 ply with re-rings or a 9 ply no rings? You are correct in the massive difference it will make to go to wood hoops. The best place to get them, in the US, is here:

http://aitwood.com/StoreFront.Asp?WoodType=MAPLE&CATID=20&WoodPLY=10&Section=HOOP10PLY&wDesc=10%20ply%20Musical%20Bass%20Hoops%20Maple

For some ideas on legs, check out Matt at this site, he ships internationally as well. If your main problem is bass drum creep, try the bass anchor first. It will be more inline with a vintage look than replacing the original spurs with "turkey legs". He also has replacement OEM style disappearing type spurs. They are a little larger in diameter and would require you to ream out the existing holes, but at least you are not getting away from the true look of the originality of the drum. Good Luck, and Cheers!

http://www.drumfactorydirect.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=6_107_80

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 13 years ago
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I also found and restored this 1968 snare drum , same blue color.

I'm looking for the handle to the throw off. May have to fabricate a new one to keep the design all original.

Any comment are appreciated!

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