First edition of the Ludwig/Paiste collaboration from the mid-60's.

The cymbal is NS12, these cymbals were typically lighter than bronze and so the weight you give makes it difficult to give a ride/crash designation.

In this era, cymbals were typically smaller so I might lean towards a ride or combined crash/ride because it's and 18". Basic rule or thumb is stick definition. Does it stay as you ride the cymbal. If the stick sound continues to clearly be on top then you're likely looking at a ride or crash/ride.

NS12 cymbals can sound surprisingly good and are delicate and brighter sounding in general and they do not project as much volume as bronze. They are a softer alloy than bronze and were therefore subject to bends and dents over time. Any damage to these cymbals can dramatically affect the sound so listen before you buy.

Thanks for the reply. It had damage to the bell so I did not purchase.

Thanks again for the info.

dd4, Ride! then crash it!

I have a set of these Paiste's that came with my 1972 Ludwig Standard set. That 18 was the ride cymbal for these kits. Its a great cymbal. Wide open, bright and responsive to all types of music. Its was a deal that Ludwig & Paiste had in that era to sell complete inexpensive sets. My kit came with that 18 Paiste ride, 16 Paiste crash that states 'thin' plus the weight inside the bell and 14 hi hats that state 'thin' and the weight. If the cymbal that you passed up can be had a cheap price, and repaired, because of light damage; go for it, cause their worth money these days! Best of luck.

Dan

I don't know.....sound on these is very subjective. I had an 18" sizzle crash/ride years ago....sounded terrible. Removed the rivets......sounded just as bad. They were cheap cymbals and should still be treated as such. Most are very "gongy" in my experience. Save your money and buy some nice vintage A's or K's or some vintage giant beats or 2002s rather than these lousy Paiste/Ludwigs.