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Here are pics of the snare. Any info on that would be awesome too! Wow you guys really know your stuff. Glad I joined!

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Posted on 6 years ago
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From toemke

Here are pics of the snare. Any info on that would be awesome too! Wow you guys really know your stuff. Glad I joined!

That appears to be a 60's era Ludwig Acrolite snare, 8 lug, aluminum shell, Keystone badge. Very cool drum. They were considered a "student line" drum, back in the day, but are very popular nowadays. Lots of vintage collectors have one (or more), in their arousal. The muffler on yours looks to be non original, a replacement. The original one is known as a "baseball bat" muffler/tone control.

In regards to the bass drum question. No need to get a head with a "hole" (known in drum world typically as a "port"), unless you want to get a mic inside the drum, or prefer that "vented" sound. For this kit, I'd recommend a solid head, get that nice vintage sound. Btw, you can still mic a bass drum with no port/hole in the head, just put the mic up near the sealed front head, just has a different sound/effect.

Cheers.

Posted on 6 years ago
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The muffler knob may be original guys.

At one point in the Keystone time, they changed from Baseball bat to round knobs.

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Posted on 6 years ago
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From green glass drum

The muffler knob may be original guys.At one point in the Keystone time, they changed from Baseball bat to round knobs.

yes, sometime in '68 the baseball bat muffler was replaced with the round one

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Posted on 6 years ago
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From toemke

Here are pics of the snare. Any info on that would be awesome too! Wow you guys really know your stuff. Glad I joined!

That is indeed an Acrolite, most likely mid/later 60s due to the muffler not being a "baseball bat" style. That one there has the adjustable knob muffler. The Acrolite snare is just an all around workhorse that can be used in any style of music. I have a '65 Acro and I can't seem to make it sound bad... I use it for nearly every gig I play.

Check for a date stamp inside the drum and also see about matching up the serial number on the badge to the Ludwig timeline for serial numbers.. should give you a solid date for the shell.

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Posted on 6 years ago
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From Fayray

yes, sometime in '68 the baseball bat muffler was replaced with the round one

His is a 69, so that would make sense. I love the baseball bat one though.

Posted on 6 years ago
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From Trilok_Gurtu

That appears to be a 60's era Ludwig Acrolite snare, 8 lug, aluminum shell, Keystone badge. Very cool drum. They were considered a "student line" drum, back in the day, but are very popular nowadays. Lots of vintage collectors have one (or more), in their arousal. The muffler on yours looks to be non original, a replacement. The original one is known as a "baseball bat" muffler/tone control. In regards to the bass drum question. No need to get a head with a "hole" (known in drum world typically as a "port"), unless you want to get a mic inside the drum, or prefer that "vented" sound. For this kit, I'd recommend a solid head, get that nice vintage sound. Btw, you can still mic a bass drum with no port/hole in the head, just put the mic up near the sealed front head, just has a different sound/effect. Cheers.

"Lots of vintage collectors have one (or more), in their arousal."LoLoLoLo

Freudian slip ? I don't think collectors get THAT excited about Acrolites ! ;)

Posted on 6 years ago
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From human71

"Lots of vintage collectors have one (or more), in their arousal."LoLoLoLoFreudian slip ? I don't think collectors get THAT excited about Acrolites ! ;)

Eh, the 60's Acro's are worth getting excited about, unless the "collector" is just a pretentious hobbyist ;)

Posted on 6 years ago
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It’s all about the sound.

Let’s be thankful the “pretentious” don’t value it so any drummer can have a world-class sounding snare in their kit without eating Ramen for two months.

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Posted on 6 years ago
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