here's an early 80s Supra 402 with die cast rims, over the mid 60s Pioneer in BDP. Then my 60s Camco in WMP with tuxedo lugs over my 60s Gretsch Renown in WMP.
Then my Rogers XP-8 8x14 monster.
and my diminutive old no lug aluminium shelled Slingerland. (freebie, gotta love it)
then the '76 Ludwig 402 that came with the '76 kit beforementioned.