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Hi MIJ folk. Wondering about the interior of the shells on my Star kit. Gray painted. Is any treatment needed after all these years? Repainting? Oil? Leave alone? They feel pretty dry to me ...

Thanks for any info.

-Doug

late 60s Ludwig Standard kit (blue strata)
late 60s Star kit (red satin)
Tama Rockstar Custom
a few snares ...
Posted on 11 years ago
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anyone ... ?

late 60s Ludwig Standard kit (blue strata)
late 60s Star kit (red satin)
Tama Rockstar Custom
a few snares ...
Posted on 11 years ago
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Good question also for the bare shelled ones too.

Currently my first set ever 1983 Pearl Export original owner. 2008 Grestch Catalina Maple, and a 1970 Star kit. Many snares including a big R Dynasonic.
Previous Rogers Holiday 12, 16, 20 and powertone snare.
Premier apk and Premier Cabria kits.
Posted on 11 years ago
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From shortyedwards

Hi MIJ folk. Wondering about the interior of the shells on my Star kit. Gray painted. Is any treatment needed after all these years? Repainting? Oil? Leave alone? They feel pretty dry to me ...Thanks for any info.-Doug

good question, I guess no, but you can be conservative and consider any form of treatment/coating. these old shells weren't the ducks guts 40 years ago but with time probably have come to sound richer and warmer. but to contradict what i just said , i have an 80's trak snare i want to treat to a hayman spec with a form of what hayman said was vibrasonic, for me i need shells that project and have volume. so coating may give you volume, but you may loose tone, my music needs volume with some decent tone.

Posted on 11 years ago
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If the insides are already painted, oil will not make much sense as it the paint will stop the oil from penetrating.

On a bare luan shell, one or two thin layers of a hardening oil such as linseed oil, danish oil or whatever will harden the wood just a little, giving the drum a little more attack and volume.

Painting them will do the same - even more. As ALOT says, this is what Hayman did to make their drums louder - but that also took out the woody softness of them. Painting shells in the extreme, like on for instance 80s Pearl MLXs, makes for a drum that almost sounds like an acrylic shell.

For yours - I wouldn´t alter them in that direction. Leave them as they are, unless the paint is severely cracked, in which case you could sand them down a little, and give them a very thin coat of aerosol spray - just to bring them back to where they were.

Just my viewpoint....

Jon

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From Jon Petersen

If the insides are already painted, oil will not make much sense as it the paint will stop the oil from penetrating....For yours - I wouldn´t alter them in that direction. Leave them as they are, unless the paint is severely cracked, in which case you could sand them down a little, and give them a very thin coat of aerosol spray - just to bring them back to where they were. ...Jon

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That's what I would have suggested, too.

Ralf

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
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There is a lot of good info here guys.

Currently my first set ever 1983 Pearl Export original owner. 2008 Grestch Catalina Maple, and a 1970 Star kit. Many snares including a big R Dynasonic.
Previous Rogers Holiday 12, 16, 20 and powertone snare.
Premier apk and Premier Cabria kits.
Posted on 11 years ago
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+1 on Jon's reply.

If you would like, do a search on this site and the DFO for this topic. We ran lots of tests on experiments utilizing various products and methods. Several of us ran A/B tests over the years and went so far as to post videos and such. Mind you, the videos are about five or six years old, but the results still hold up today. I'm still an OSMO Polyx Hardwax Oil fan. There are numerous products out there. Find what works best for you.

Good topic.

Posted on 11 years ago
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On bare Luann interiors, I've found that clear dewaxed shellac does wonders without changing the look.

The shellac penetrates and binds the porous fibers well. Keeps the shells from cracking, de-laminating. Makes them less splintery.

It does tend to "brighten" the tone slightly but 2 coats, sanding the gloss off the final coat keeps this change to a minimum.

60's Sonor Teardrops & 70s Premier AMs
Sabian
Vic Firth
Remo/Evans

"unless it's vintage, it's just another wooden tube."
Posted on 11 years ago
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From mcjnic

+1 on Jon's reply. If you would like, do a search on this site and the DFO for this topic. We ran lots of tests on experiments utilizing various products and methods. Several of us ran A/B tests over the years and went so far as to post videos and such. Mind you, the videos are about five or six years old, but the results still hold up today. I'm still an OSMO Polyx Hardwax Oil fan. There are numerous products out there. Find what works best for you. Good topic.

Do these vids have side by side comparisons? Do they use drums with all other variables identical? I have never seen such vids - can you provide a link?

Thanks,

a known MIJ fanatic,

John

I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

2Timothy1:7
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