Have you ever checked out the web site for Jollity Drum Farm in Argyle, New York? Bobby the owner is a Rogers authority and Rogers drum collector/restorer/seller. He has some vintage Rogers drum sets that range from decent player's drums to pristine collector quality.

Hmmmmm....just sayin'......

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I don't get it. Why in the world would anyone spend the money on that reissue when you can have a vintage one in good shape for far less?

I know that the new one is pristine and tries to give off the vintage vibe....but the vintage one already has the vintage vibe!

It's just like Ludwig when they reissued the Acrolites a few years ago.....at $399. Why??? You can get a "real" Acrolite for half of that. To be fair, there certainly more Acrolites around then vintage Rogers kits, but still, I think you get the point.

I don’t get the sense a solid shell Craviotto is a comparable to the Rogers reissue. I suppose it does make a point that some spend a lot on drums. As far as quality vintage availability I can say on average I purchase a factory original collectible grade set with snare, hardware, and cymbals about every 6 months for the past 4 years. Almost all the shells below had the original heads too. Sets were bought privately or through a shop locally and online.

Just to name a few: ‘67 Mod Orange Super Classic w/ Supra, ‘68 WMP Downbeat w/ Supra, ‘66 Champ Superbeat w/ Acro, ‘59 Sparkling Blue RK GK Ensemble w/ Calfskins, ‘63 Sparkling Pink Modern Jazz w/ matching snare and calf all around, ‘66 Rogers Blue Onyx Headliner w/ COB Powertone, and ‘66 Gretsch Aqua Flame Progressive Jazz w/ matching snare.

The cost of all those sets combined was less than the Maxwell’s Reissue. Despite, I don’t doubt someone will buy it.

Your point was well made. VERY well-made. You and I are very much alike in our thinking.

That was my total point of bringing up the Craviotto kit...or a custom DW kit....and probably a few others.

I totally agree that it makes no sense to buy a reissue -IF you can procure a pristine, original kit. God knows I'm ALL about original, matched, named kits!

I may have been under a slight misunderstanding about the Maxwell kits....I thought he was making a complete line of hardware for the reissue kits, too....but, if that's not the case, then it's a total fail to me, My point was never in reference to reissued shell packs. I thought we were talking about matched kits with matching hardware.

That Craviotto is pretty nice except for the rims mount

In a recap from NAMM 2020 this video gets into the future hardware options. It sounds like a twist on the vintage with ability to retrofit. He acknowledges two future price tiers, import and import with a USA label. Joking aside, I love my Dyna reissue and don’t care what country or combination of countries it’s made in. It fits perfect into my Headliner sound.

Rogers material starts at 9:10.

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If the company isn't going to put out the old swan leg stands and hardware package options the way that they used to, then it's a waste of time, in my opinion. No one is looking for any vintage style stuff to be new and improved. The whole point is that the old stuff was better quality stuff than the newer stuff. People who want it, want it to be like it used to be. Putting a tom tom on a snare stand, for example.....just looks lazy and "DIY"....Now they are pandering to it as if that's what drummers have been asking for. I think the people who like vintage style designs want it to be exactly that.

Let me just ask this straight up: IF you could buy a brand new Ludwig, Rogers, Gretsch or Slingerland kit and have it be EXACTLY like a real, vintage version....with all the finish options, etc. OR, you could have a brand new kit that was kinda like the old ones....but not really (because of a bunch of improvements), then what would be your preference?

The drums that are exactly like the originals get my vote. And, thanks for being another member who dislikes tom toms on snare drum stands and "flying" toms--especially floor toms.