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Ludwig Supraphonic Cut Badge???

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My apologies If I've posted this in the wrong section but I found this Ludwig Supraphonic on ebay.

It's missing parts and the shell has been painted black but the badge has been cut to fit. Is it possible this is an original cut badge supra or just a keystone supra re-badged. The badge doesn't look original. It's round corner and it look like it's from the 80's so that should be a clue right there that's it probably not an original cut badge snare. But what does everyone else think. It would be a great resto project.

Check it out.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ludwig-Supraphonic-Snare-Drum-Parts-or-Repair/223548338940?hash=item340c84f2fc:g:7vYAAOSwnyFc~6GI

Posted on 5 years ago
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My educated guess says that it's not original. The badge looks like it was installed after the shell was painted. Plus, the grommet doesn't look original as well. Hope this helps. I'm sure others will offer their views.

-Mark

Posted on 5 years ago
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From idrum4fun

My educated guess says that it's not original. The badge looks like it was installed after the shell was painted. Plus, the grommet doesn't look original as well. Hope this helps. I'm sure others will offer their views.-Mark

Hey Mark. Yeah I thought the same thing too. Just wanted to get a second opinion. Still for the right price It would make a great project. I'd grab it but I can't afford it.

Posted on 5 years ago
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Definitely not an original badge. If you look closely you will see a thin black line at the bottom that served to outline the serial number in the 1980's. I've never heard of a cut badge from that era and this one was poorly cut as well, as it doesn't really fit.

Also, it looks like a brass grommet, not the chrome or nickel grommets that

were used in the 1980's

1974-75 Rogers Starlighter IV New England White 13/16/22 (w/Dyna)
1964-67 Rogers Blue Glass Glitter 12/14/16/20
early Oaklawn Camco Blue Moire 12/14/20
1926 Super Ludwig 5x14
1960-ish Ludwig COB 5x14 Super Sensitive
1960-ish Ludwig COB 6.5x14 Super Sensitive
1970 Ludwig COB Cut-Badge 5x14 Supra Phonic

Looking for a Camco Aristocrat SD in Blue Moire!!
Posted on 5 years ago
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From kdg

Definitely not an original badge. If you look closely you will see a thin black line at the bottom that served to outline the serial number in the 1980's. I've never heard of a cut badge from that era

Nice observation kdg. Rick Gier identifies that badge as a BO4 (~'82-'84) in his Ludwig Dating Guide. He also mentions some trimmed B/O badges being used on factory seconds in "later eras" but doesn't mention which badge type or what exact era. Could this be one of those factory seconds?

Posted on 5 years ago
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From kdg

Definitely not an original badge. If you look closely you will see a thin black line at the bottom that served to outline the serial number in the 1980's. I've never heard of a cut badge from that era and this one was poorly cut as well, as it doesn't really fit.Also, it looks like a brass grommet, not the chrome or nickel grommets thatwere used in the 1980's

I've never seen one from that era either. Then there's so much about Ludwig I don't know. But I still wonder If it's possible this is an original cut badge snare and when they painted the shell they damaged the original badge and replaced it with the current one. It's probably a long shot I know. AH WELL!!. Some one will win it and I hope they restore it to its former glory.

Posted on 5 years ago
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From slingerfan

Nice observation kdg. Rick Gier identifies that badge as a BO4 (~'82-'84) in his Ludwig Dating Guide. He also mentions some trimmed B/O badges being used on factory seconds in "later eras" but doesn't mention which badge type or what exact era. Could this be one of those factory seconds?

I have Ricks book to. Great read. Very informative and very well done.

Posted on 5 years ago
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