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Ludwig Rail Consolette Identification Last viewed: 4 hours ago

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Another newbie question. Tried looking at the old catalogs but the photos are not clear. I've got two types of rail consolette on my Ludwig bass drums. The difference is in the part that holds the L-arm/rod. One is with that old looking flat plate bolted to a disc with holes in it (65 BOP) similar to the one on my Gretsch and the other, more modern looking (68 blue sparkle). I was ok with this until I saw the newer style on a 65 downbeat kit. I prefer the newer consolette but thought I'd check before I change it on my 65 BOP as the it's quite possible that the 65 downbeat may have had the original replaced....unless you guys tell me they had both from 65 on. Thanks for any help...

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The newer one with the ratcheted teeth came out in late 1967 and replaced the older "telephone dial" version.

Both have the same hole pattern so they are interchangeable. Just keep the old telephone dial one if you ever want to sell the kit because it's better to have the original parts.

The older telephone dial one has the script logo and the newer one has the block logo, fyi.

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Thanks for the info and advice. I'll leave them both alone.

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From O-Lugs

The newer one with the ratcheted teeth came out in late 1967 and replaced the older "telephone dial" version.Both have the same hole pattern so they are interchangeable. Just keep the old telephone dial one if you ever want to sell the kit because it's better to have the original parts.The older telephone dial one has the script logo and the newer one has the block logo, fyi.

O-LUGS:

I happen to have a newer version of the consolette (non "telephone dial") that has the script logo. Is that somewhat unique? Just wondering.

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Are there schematic diagrams of both available anywhere so I can be sure what exact parts I need?

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O-LUGS:I happen to have a newer version of the consolette (non "telephone dial") that has the script logo. Is that somewhat unique? Just wondering.

That's the transitional one. 1967- if my guess is correct. It also has a slightly downward-facing nut for tightening the L-arm -as opposed to the one that came out right after it, which was the exact same except the tightening nut was facing straight forward...and had the script logo. Pics just to confirm? Thanks

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Are there schematic diagrams of both available anywhere so I can be sure what exact parts I need?

I don't know of any....but there is probably one somewhere -maybe there's a patent search you could try. Sometimes, they show the details.

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From O-Lugs

That's the transitional one. 1967- if my guess is correct. It also has a slightly downward-facing nut for tightening the L-arm -as opposed to the one that came out right after it, which was the exact same except the tightening nut was facing straight forward...and had the script logo. Pics just to confirm? Thanks

Here you go, O-Lugs.

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Well, that's slightly different than what I expected! There is one that's identical to that one except for the angle of the tightening nut for the tom's L-arm. Still, I would say that's an early ratcheted rail consolette. I don't have mine, anymore to show the slight difference, unfortunately.

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From O-Lugs

Well, that's slightly different than what I expected! There is one that's identical to that one except for the angle of the tightening nut for the tom's L-arm. Still, I would say that's an early ratcheted rail consolette. I don't have mine, anymore to show the slight difference, unfortunately.

O-LUGS:

Your input is greatly appreciated, as always!:D

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