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Ludwig or Rogers.

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From The Ploughman

I traded a Black Beauty.. and a Supraphonic for a Rogers Dyna-Sonic, and got the better of it. As for the new Dyna-Sonic.. limited isn't something I would call it. A choice you would need to make for yourself. If you are prone to like the Ludwig with its rather marginal throw off, it may be the drum you want. I had the Supersensitive edition and found it to be over rated, like going to a pig farm and expecting to find a race horse. The new Dyna-Sonic … is excellently well made, sensitive in a way that Super only promised on paper but could not deliver.

Wow Ploughman, that part about the pig farm and the race horse is salient. Lots of linkage on the Super. It's like the twin carbs on a British sport car. Almost never synchronized.

One comment on the new Dynasonic: It has the earlier strainer - clockface. Not easy to load the snare strings into that strainer with the pinch plate at the back. I've always been surprised that Joe Thomson did that. He did get it right the second time. If I had one, I'd put the later strainer on or else I'd be given to some serious frustration. For that reason alone, I've always stayed away from the earlier PowerTones. I had one a couple of years ago and was reminded about that fact and sold it as a result. It was very original and in red onyx, so I didn't want to mess with it.

Aside from that, I don't understand why folks don't regularly use Dynasonics. I used mine and loved 'em. I used the brass just to get a bit more cutting if needed, but really either one works pretty well in my view. PowerTone right behind those, and of either shell too.

I've always enjoyed this clip if it helps any:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWVk1X4Nfo8"]DYNASONIC vs POWERTONE ROGERS snare drums 2 - YouTube[/ame]

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Posted on 5 years ago
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PS - Ludwig Black Beauty from the 90's.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xwuMMoSCnw"]Snare Spotlight: Ludwig Black Beauty - YouTube[/ame]

Posted on 5 years ago
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I LOVE Dynasonics and know how to tune them. Still, many drummers just don't want to be bothered with the extra steps required to properly adjust them. I get it. As for the comment about the issues with the Clockface strainer, I couldn't agree more! I was never a fan of the CF strainer and also felt that Joe got it right with the next generation Swivo strainer with elongated face and easier string mounting. I know that many drummers love the CF strainer, but I'm just not one of them...even though I installed a new repro CF on my clone Dynasonic!

All that being said, I still stand by my opinion that the Black Beauty is the more versatile drum for a variety of genres.

-Mark

Posted on 5 years ago
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I owned a World Max Black Hawg drum for awhile that I guess was supposed to be a good copy of a real BB....meh...I didn't go crazy over it. It was okay. I'd prefer an Acrolite or a Supra over anything else, though. The Supra is a pretty drum that sounds great. The Acrolite is it's slightly less fancy cousin! I think Ludwig couldn't have gotten it more right than the Supra. I never liked the Super Sensitive drum that much -snare mechanism was too involved for me.

For wood snare drums...Again...Ludwig...The Pioneer is my favorite for actually playing. My favorite snare drum is my 1964 Pioneer with NOB rims, red felt muffler and P83 -original Weathermaster heads have never been off the drum!

I have never even played a wood Dynasonic. I did own a brass one and didn't care for it that much. It sure looked pretty, though! Rogers drums are some of the prettiest drums of all, in my opinion.

Anyway, looks like you made your decision. I'm just chiming in late!

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Posted on 5 years ago
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I have a pre-serial number Pioneer in a mahogany finish with brass hoops and the original snare wires, I love that snare. Lately I've been gigging with ny 6.5x14 Classic Maple, it really cuts through the mix.

I've not really played a wood dyna, but I never liked the metal version. Ludwig snares are just special, glad you bought the bb, great drum.

Posted on 5 years ago
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Quick question. I notice that the BB in the video has cast hoops. I had one from that era a long time ago. I don't recall cast hoops. I'm pretty sure it had COS hoops. What have you folks seen?

Posted on 5 years ago
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