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Ludwig Dual Strainer Snare Drum Help?

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I just bought this 14x10" marching WMP snare attracted by the unusual dual snare mechanism which has a normal P83 on the reso side, but a second set of snares on the batter side activated by a lever. I've never seen one like this. Is it rare or valuable? The P83 strainer is a little cranky but unstuck. Chicago badge would say 1960-1963. I may resell or add to my vintage display. Any insight or information about this drum would be appreciated.

1967 Ludwig WMP Club Date + 16" FT + cannister throne
1992 Ludwig Classic 6 piece Mahogany Stain + 8", 14" & 18"
2004 Ludwig Black Beauty 6.5", brass fittings
90th Ludwig Anniversary Top Hat & Cane 5" SD
1948 WFL Ludwig Super Classic WMP 6" SD
1970's Fibes 22", 16", 12" rewrap Top Hat & Cane
Posted on 3 years ago
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Via another venue, a fellow drummer researched this drum with some Ludwig friends he knows and they believe that this drum may have been an experimental or prototype for which few were built. I think it is cool. I am open to selling the drum if anyone is interested. Am downsizing my vintage display collection.

1967 Ludwig WMP Club Date + 16" FT + cannister throne
1992 Ludwig Classic 6 piece Mahogany Stain + 8", 14" & 18"
2004 Ludwig Black Beauty 6.5", brass fittings
90th Ludwig Anniversary Top Hat & Cane 5" SD
1948 WFL Ludwig Super Classic WMP 6" SD
1970's Fibes 22", 16", 12" rewrap Top Hat & Cane
Posted on 2 years ago
#2
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I've never seen this exact model, but snare drums with duel level snares were around in that era. Cool unit.

Posted on 2 years ago
#3
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Just a guess, but did Ludwig experiment with making a snare drum for the pipe band market? Premier is known for the internal wire snares under the batter head for the pipe bands. I don't know when Premier first offered that type of arrangement but believe it was called a Royal Scot and was some time after 1945. I don't know if Premier was first or Rose Morris. In any case it is a cool drum.

Posted on 2 years ago
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The p83 that is shown is much older than the drum. Should have had the same bolt pattern though. Wonder what the extra hole was for at the bottom strainer?

Mike

Posted on 2 years ago
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Thanks for the info all. Mike, I wonder if the P83 was installed by the guy who rebuilt the drum inscribed in the inside 1997. I overlooked that strainer era for P83. Local drum shop said a 85 would fit the holes.

1967 Ludwig WMP Club Date + 16" FT + cannister throne
1992 Ludwig Classic 6 piece Mahogany Stain + 8", 14" & 18"
2004 Ludwig Black Beauty 6.5", brass fittings
90th Ludwig Anniversary Top Hat & Cane 5" SD
1948 WFL Ludwig Super Classic WMP 6" SD
1970's Fibes 22", 16", 12" rewrap Top Hat & Cane
Posted on 2 years ago
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