Never had badges on them?I would have to question the authenticity of those shells.I'm assuming that you bought these drums used from someone who told you they were Ludwig?

Also,do they appear to have been rewrapped?Please post some photos...

Steve BWelcome

They're frankensteins, but yep they're definitely early 70's Ludwig 3 plys. There are filled in holes where things used to be, but I don't trust any of the holes cos there are a few different holes from back in the days when the kit was just 'an old drum kit' rather than a 'vintage 3 ply Ludwig collectable' or anything. :-)

It was around that year that Ludwig switched-up positions. For that year, it SHOULD be (looking down at the drum, with the bracket at the 9 o'clock position), the muffler is centered between two adjacent lugs at roughly 8 o'clock (facing the player), and the same with the badge at roughly 1 o'clock (facing the audience). A bit later, the badge and tone control were all on the same side, facing the audience. The latter looks like sh*t, if you ask me. Lame

Thanks!

I found this link which shows a same size kit from the same time as mine which should be quite useful.

http://www.classicvintagedrums.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=93&products_id=818

R.