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Ludwig Acrolite - date faked?

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Hi Ludwig experts,

I 've bought a vintage Acrolite on ebay.

The snare is not really in good condition (see attached photos) and I'm not shure, if it's really from 1966 as the seller has stated:

The serial badge is loose.

There is a smeared stamp, could be "APR 11 1966".

So, a loose badge and a smeared stamp, do you think this is a "faked" Acrolite?

Thanx for your help.

Pete

Posted on 12 years ago
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Nope it's real, it's an acro their is no monetary gain to fake a low price drum, these are all very normal, your grommet looks 100% factory and many stamped dates on metal ludwig are smudged. snug the grommet back and play it you'll be a happy camper with it.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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like vm2 mentioned, its real. ive got one from about the same period that had the spinning badge. they were cranking them out back then. let some slip by i would imagine. you could gently insert some glue behind the badge. on one, i gave the backside of the grommet a light hammer blow with another rounded ball peen hammer into the back side of the grommet to tighten it. it didnt take much.

mike

Posted on 12 years ago
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Really...why would anybody go to the trouble to fake an Acrolite. They were designed and sold as student drums and there are a ton of them on the market regardless of the vintage. Personally I prefer them to Supras in the studio because of their dry sound and I even have one set up for small room gigs, all muted down. The loose badge and smudgy date are pretty common, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Posted on 12 years ago
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I agree with all above - the spinnies and smudgies are all part of the acro charm. Tighten up the badge and you're good to go. Try the hammer method (carefully!), and if it doesn't work, then a drop of superglue behind the badge does the trick.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Ithis the one off eBay seller tinajas1 for $100 plus shipping? If so, I think you did just fine on that one. It had some mismatched tension rods disclosed, but no mention of the loose badge.

Collecting information about the following for ongoing research projects:
Gretsch drums with serial numbers,
Ludwig Keystone and B/O badge drums with serial numbers and date stamps,
Ludwig Standards from 1968-73, and
Ludwigs with paper labels from 1971-72
www.GretschDrumDatingGuide.com
Posted on 12 years ago
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Thank you all for your kind replies.

@KCDrumDad: No, it's from the German ebay shop.

There is a seller who frequently sells vintage Acrolites from the 60's up to the 80's.

60s Acrolites can make about 250€ up to 300€. Professional dealers demanding up to 450€.

So if someone has tons of vintage Acrolites, he should sell them in the German ebay shop ;)

Pete

Posted on 12 years ago
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Pete, I have a Ludwig Super classic kit with keystone badges and the badges are loose. Its good to know that they came from the factory like that. I also have a few acros, from 67,68,69. I love the look and sound from these drums and I like them better than my supra also. Interesting tip on the German ebay. How much are they worth in US money?

Jeff C


Thank you!
Jeff C

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Posted on 12 years ago
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