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Low serial# Ludwig Pioneer, color question

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Hello!

I've found a cool Pioneer, I can't place the color, (probably my eyes!)

Stamp date Dec. 11 1963. A week newer than the one pictured on KCDrumDads fine book.

It's like a light green/gold/yellow.

Thanks for any input!

Posted on 4 years ago
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Here are more pics

Posted on 4 years ago
#2
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I like it what ever it's called.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 4 years ago
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I don't know what he heck is wrong with me, I'll pull a lug off and get back with everyone!FYI

Posted on 4 years ago
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First of all..that's a beautiful drum and a great year! The Pioneer is probably my favorite wood snare drum of all, so I may be biased!

My guess is that it's a really yellowed silver sparkle. It seems to be very uniform so it's likely a chemical reaction and not a sun fade.

~2 cents

"God is dead." -Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead." -God
Posted on 4 years ago
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From O-Lugs

My guess is that it's a really yellowed silver sparkle.

+1

Cheers

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Posted on 4 years ago
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I would think if it was that faded, you would see a line where the head overlaps

Posted on 4 years ago
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Under the lug should tell the tale. That date stamp is one year prior to my birthday. I have a Club Date tom that is one year after my birthday.

Mike

Posted on 4 years ago
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From skins_in_the_game

I would think if it was that faded, you would see a line where the head overlaps

If it was a fade due to UV light then that would be correct. But, sometimes, there was a chemical reaction with the plastic, glue...whatever....and the entire wrap would change color, regardless. It appears to be in extremely nice condition, so it was probably kept in its suitcase over the years. Maybe there was some kind of outgassing of the plastic wrap while it was in the case and that outgassing caused a chemical reaction that made the wrap change color...just to throw one theory out there.

It's a cool color, too! I like it!

"God is dead." -Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead." -God
Posted on 4 years ago
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