How can it be "mint" and "almost no keyhole" at the same time?These terms are mutually exlusive.

Steve B

And you're completely right. I've seen some claims on eBay cymbals like wouldn't believe. For example one old K with heavy patina, grime, and tape residue on the underside etc. And that's what one seller called "mint" in his advertisement. When I disputed that on some drum web site that shall remain nameless, then I had at several members who were argued vehemently in his favor.

But in the end I won.

Someone who is well established in the vintage cymbal circles...ahem ahem, should produce a vintage cymbal rating guide similair to the ones Kelly Blue Book has for automobiles. The creator should expect it to be circulated at will and decline any proprietary claims, other than a credit for the origination. The guide could have a list of the ratings with a brief description for each. Then it could be passed around via the cyber highway and after a little while, I have to believe it would be THE GUIDE by which cymbals are graded.

Just my almost worthless :2Cents:

toodles

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